Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back - my choice BUT

danegrey · 04-25-2021, 12:49 PM

everything has a BUT.... (Beyond the underlying truth)
Either
Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back
or XP8 front and back...

But the real question should I go with them, since the car is driven on the street, to and from the track
or
should I simply just get street/track pad set

I want to replace the pads before the next track event in a month...

Thanks for being patience with me on this, at times I get all thumbs....

Hotrodz · 04-25-2021, 01:13 PM

I ran the same pads street and track. The squeal when cold on the street and they dust like mad. I didn't street the car much before the engine blew.

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Rusty · 04-25-2021, 04:33 PM

I use that combo all the time.

Just be prepared for the dust, and the squeal coming to a stop. Neither of which bothers me. When cold, the pads still have LOTS of bite.

OptionZero · 04-25-2021, 06:33 PM

Ceramic coat your wheels and the dust should come right off

Jhill · 04-25-2021, 08:22 PM

Love them on the track but I don’t think I’d tolerate them on the street to be honest. Aside from noise and dust they’re a bit much grab in stop and go traffic. I do the 1521 on street and swap to xp10/8 a week or two before events. It’s a bit a hassle but worth it in the end.

DarkJak · 04-25-2021, 09:58 PM

I've done 10/8 on the street for a couple years now, though it's more like 25% street.

If you are only occasionally tracking, consider swapping to 12/10 at the track and a nice streetfriendly compound most the time. If you have space to work and basic tools, the akebono's are quick to do a pad swap.

Quicksilvers · 04-26-2021, 08:23 AM

I ran the Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 back for years before switching to different brake pads. There is a reason the Carbotech brake pads cost more they bit really well and you will be able to see the full benefits of the Carbotech’s on the track. You will see a braking improvement with the Carbotech’s but you will need to run upgraded rotors though. Only con’s is you will notice is more dusting coming from them and evident on your wheels. Also when they are cold a specially on cold days they will make noise moaning etc. When they warm up they quiet down. One thing to realize is when running a track oriented brake pad like the Carbotech’s or similar rotor life will decrease some. I recommend switching from street brake pads when you want to drive your Z on the street and on your track days switching over to your track pads you will thank yourself later. The 1521 Carbotech’s will be a nice improvement on the street. What brake fluid do you plan on using? What is your brake set up plans for street/track?

danegrey · 04-26-2021, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

IThe 1521 Carbotech’s will be a nice improvement on the street. What brake fluid do you plan on using? What is your brake set up plans for street/track?

Motol 660 brake fluid
Stillen Brake Cooling installed already
I did the Z1 370z(Sport) Brake Upgrade Kit a couple of years ago...

I street the car maybe third of the time. So sounds like I should be good.
Thanks all for the help

danegrey · 04-26-2021, 10:01 AM

Should ask this up front, which suppliers do you use?
Since I have to get them by May 12th

DarkJak · 04-26-2021, 12:23 PM

I use myself, and am about to order a set from them directly. PM me and I can get you in on that order.

Quicksilvers · 04-27-2021, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey

Should ask this up front, which suppliers do you use?
Since I have to get them by May 12th

I would refrain ordering anything from Z1 in my opinion there are a lot of vendors you can order from how deserve your business. I ordered all my brake pads and brake related items direct from Carbotech and I'm happy I did. www.ctbrakes.com

danegrey · 04-27-2021, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

I would refrain ordering anything from Z1 in my opinion there are a lot of vendors you can order from how deserve your business. I ordered all my brake pads and brake related items direct from Carbotech and I'm happy I did. www.ctbrakes.com

thanks for the tip, found out they have a 10% discount for SCCA a members

ltullos · 04-29-2021, 01:55 PM

I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust.

I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it.

Hotrodz · 04-29-2021, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltullos

I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust.

I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it.

LMAO, if you are changing pads that often you need change to something else. Those pads are fine for street and maybe a novice at the track but not for anyone in this thread.

JARblue · 04-29-2021, 03:25 PM

Replacing brakes pads every other event is a sign that you need to move to a harder brake pad compound for your track use.

04-25-2021, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,115 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 599206	Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back - my choice BUT everything has a BUT.... (Beyond the underlying truth) Either Carbotech XP10 front XP8 back or XP8 front and back... But the real question should I go with them, since the car is driven on the street, to and from the track or should I simply just get street/track pad set I want to replace the pads before the next track event in a month... Thanks for being patience with me on this, at times I get all thumbs.... __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

04-25-2021, 01:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I ran the same pads street and track. The squeal when cold on the street and they dust like mad. I didn't street the car much before the engine blew. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk danegrey and Rusty like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

04-25-2021, 04:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,921 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	I use that combo all the time. Just be prepared for the dust, and the squeal coming to a stop. Neither of which bothers me. When cold, the pads still have LOTS of bite. FL 4Motion, danegrey and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

04-25-2021, 06:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,162 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 203226	Ceramic coat your wheels and the dust should come right off danegrey and Hotrodz like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

04-25-2021, 08:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 846 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3384	Love them on the track but I don’t think I’d tolerate them on the street to be honest. Aside from noise and dust they’re a bit much grab in stop and go traffic. I do the 1521 on street and swap to xp10/8 a week or two before events. It’s a bit a hassle but worth it in the end. danegrey likes this.

04-25-2021, 09:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,393 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 13448	I've done 10/8 on the street for a couple years now, though it's more like 25% street. If you are only occasionally tracking, consider swapping to 12/10 at the track and a nice streetfriendly compound most the time. If you have space to work and basic tools, the akebono's are quick to do a pad swap. danegrey likes this. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

04-26-2021, 08:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25463	I ran the Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 back for years before switching to different brake pads. There is a reason the Carbotech brake pads cost more they bit really well and you will be able to see the full benefits of the Carbotech’s on the track. You will see a braking improvement with the Carbotech’s but you will need to run upgraded rotors though. Only con’s is you will notice is more dusting coming from them and evident on your wheels. Also when they are cold a specially on cold days they will make noise moaning etc. When they warm up they quiet down. One thing to realize is when running a track oriented brake pad like the Carbotech’s or similar rotor life will decrease some. I recommend switching from street brake pads when you want to drive your Z on the street and on your track days switching over to your track pads you will thank yourself later. The 1521 Carbotech’s will be a nice improvement on the street. What brake fluid do you plan on using? What is your brake set up plans for street/track? danegrey likes this. __________________ Mr. Clean

04-26-2021, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,115 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 599206	Should ask this up front, which suppliers do you use? Since I have to get them by May 12th __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

04-26-2021, 12:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,393 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 13448	I use myself, and am about to order a set from them directly. PM me and I can get you in on that order. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

04-29-2021, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 14	I've been using the Stoptech sport pads for several years and over 20 events. I typically change fronts after every other event & rears every 3-4th event (all depending on track and duration). I know there are better track pads; but I've never had an issue with any kind of fade or stopping force. Hopefully I will eventually when I become a much faster driver. Best thing is that I can use these for street as well without squeal or significant brake dust. I suggest you give them a try and only go to a harder pad when you find that you need it. Last edited by ltullos; 04-29-2021 at 02:01 PM.

04-29-2021, 03:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Replacing brakes pads every other event is a sign that you need to move to a harder brake pad compound for your track use. FL 4Motion, Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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