problem with floatin rotors and akebono

JARblue · 03-26-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by taz46

It's a shame here in europe the z is a non existent car

in my country there's only less than 3k Z's sold from 2009-2020

Where is that? I was trying to guess the AND abbreviation. Amsterdam, Netherlands? Andorra?

cv129 · 03-26-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Where is that? I was trying to guess the AND abbreviation. Amsterdam, Netherlands? Andorra?

Lol same here I’ve been trying to guess his location, wrecking my brain here.

taz46 · 03-26-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

Lol same here I’ve been trying to guess his location, wrecking my brain here.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Where is that? I was trying to guess the AND abbreviation. Amsterdam, Netherlands? Andorra?

i live in Spain, AND is the abbreviation for Andorra a small country next to Spain.

cheers.

taz46 · 03-29-2021, 05:32 AM

post update. After several emails with the engineers and pictures with caliper/discs measurements, there's no way to use floating rotors with Akebono brakes. sadly..
the only way to use 2 piece rotors with Akebonos is going fixed like z1, DBA...

Rusty · 03-29-2021, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by taz46

post update. After several emails with the engineers and pictures with caliper/discs measurements, there's no way to use floating rotors with Akebono brakes. sadly..
the only way to use 2 piece rotors with Akebonos is going fixed like z1, DBA...

Z1 and RacingBrake both make 2 piece rotors. I have the RacingBrake rotors on front and rear.

Page 12 of my build thread.

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cv129 · 03-29-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by taz46

post update. After several emails with the engineers and pictures with caliper/discs measurements, there's no way to use floating rotors with Akebono brakes. sadly..
the only way to use 2 piece rotors with Akebonos is going fixed like z1, DBA...

Or if you get really lucky that a GTR owner is upgrading his brakes and sell you the OEM setup for cheap, do a conversion. Consider how expensive it is to ship these rotors from USA.

Good luck either way!

taz46 · 04-02-2021, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

Or if you get really lucky that a GTR owner is upgrading his brakes and sell you the OEM setup for cheap, do a conversion. Consider how expensive it is to ship these rotors from USA.

Good luck either way!

In my opinion, Any good aftermarket BBK, like AP RACING will be better than GTR OEM brakes and cheaper probably. I have some time In a 2020 gtr nismo, and a lot of owners changed the brakes to a aftermarket BBK like Alcon(for tracking purposes)

The thing is that here in Europe modify the car is a pain in the ***, any mod, even if it's simple like a wheelspacer equals a +300$ fine + a car inspection that you need to pass X year to check if the car is stock.

I have to think about it because as i said, changing the front braking system equals a problems, but one option i have, and i'm thinking seriously is to go AP Radical 1 calipers for the fronts, the list of available pads and discs is vastly expanded.ç

thank you

Rusty · 04-02-2021, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by taz46

In my opinion, Any good aftermarket BBK, like AP RACING will be better than GTR OEM brakes and cheaper probably.

The thing is that here in Europe is modify the car is a pain in the ***, any mod, even if it's simple like a wheelspacer equals a +300$ fine + a car inspection that you need to pass X year to check if the car is stock.

I need to think about it, but one option i have, and i'm thinking seriously is to go AP Radical 2 calipers for the fronts.

Stillen and a few other places here in the states used to sell the AP Radical II BBK kits. But something happened a few years back and AP is no longer selling their BBK kits here for the Z. I was looking into them for myself. Think the only BBK kit left for the Z is the Brembo and the Wilwood kits here in the states.

cv129 · 04-02-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by taz46

In my opinion, Any good aftermarket BBK, like AP RACING will be better than GTR OEM brakes and cheaper probably. I have some time In a 2020 gtr nismo, and a lot of owners changed the brakes to a aftermarket BBK like Alcon(for tracking purposes)

The thing is that here in Europe modify the car is a pain in the ***, any mod, even if it's simple like a wheelspacer equals a +300$ fine + a car inspection that you need to pass X year to check if the car is stock.

I have to think about it because as i said, changing the front braking system equals a problems, but one option i have, and i'm thinking seriously is to go AP Radical 1 calipers for the fronts, the list of available pads and discs is vastly expanded.ç

thank you

Not arguing, just clarifying my thoughts...

Key point was if you could have it for cheap. For the same price, I would obviously go with the few reputable aftermarket BBK setups. Used OEM GTR brakes are still much cheaper than reputable aftermarket BBK, full setup to full setup, in the US market at least.

I assume the brake bias is still ok....long time ago an AP rep said bias would be wrong, but nowadays there are a few cars running around with that setup, one is a euro member that tracks and is turbo’d, so I guess the bias is ok....I don’t know....

I think judging the sufficiency against the GTR is tough, they are 5-600hp pigs after all. For use on a Z34, OEM GTR hardwares would be more than sufficient...easily few hundred pounds less, 2-300 hp less....

Hotrodz · 04-02-2021, 12:01 PM

Just to add another choice to the mix is Stoptech makes a two piece floating rotor that should fit sport brakes!

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cv129 · 08-10-2021, 11:40 AM

FYI taz46, if you find this to your liking

AP Racing CP9668/9660 Brake Kit Hardware

Rusty · 08-10-2021, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

FYI taz46, if you find this to your liking

AP Racing CP9668/9660 Brake Kit Hardware

Grave digger.

cv129 · 08-10-2021, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Grave digger.

Finally received this honor!!

BGTV8 · 08-10-2021, 04:47 PM

This rotor kit will only work with AP Racing calipers.

Machining the Akebono caliper will reduce reduce (significantly) the caliper bridge strength and may cause some flex in the caliper when it is really hot.

Best option is to return the rotors and get a refund.

I do have a pair of DBA rotors for the Akebono calipers (these have a recessed hat to clear the bridge in the rotor - I can send a photo if you are interested) in my shed that are surplus to requirement - PM me if you are interested but freight from Australia to Europe will be slow and expensive I think.

PM me if you you are interested and I can get a price

Hotrodz · 08-10-2021, 05:17 PM

LMAO, slow is an understatement with international delivery. I have been waiting since the end of April for parts to come from BMW Europe.

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	Just to add another choice to the mix is Stoptech makes a two piece floating rotor that should fit sport brakes! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk sx moneypit and ZoomZ like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,272 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163996	FYI taz46, if you find this to your liking AP Racing CP9668/9660 Brake Kit Hardware JARblue and sx moneypit like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

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BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,516 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39975	This rotor kit will only work with AP Racing calipers. Machining the Akebono caliper will reduce reduce (significantly) the caliper bridge strength and may cause some flex in the caliper when it is really hot. Best option is to return the rotors and get a refund. I do have a pair of DBA rotors for the Akebono calipers (these have a recessed hat to clear the bridge in the rotor - I can send a photo if you are interested) in my shed that are surplus to requirement - PM me if you are interested but freight from Australia to Europe will be slow and expensive I think. PM me if you you are interested and I can get a price Rusty, Hotrodz and wanker like this.

08-10-2021, 05:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	LMAO, slow is an understatement with international delivery. I have been waiting since the end of April for parts to come from BMW Europe. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Rusty and Spooler like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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taz46 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: AND Posts: 15 Drives: 370z gt Rep Power: 7	post update. After several emails with the engineers and pictures with caliper/discs measurements, there's no way to use floating rotors with Akebono brakes. sadly.. the only way to use 2 piece rotors with Akebonos is going fixed like z1, DBA...