Subwoofer Upgrade to Bose Touring Stereo

2fast4thelaw · 01-04-2010, 10:42 AM

Look in the classifieds on this site! There is a guy selling a custom enclosure that fits in the spare tire that has a Jl Audio 8" sub in it. Then use your PG M-50 (great amp BTW) and an Audio control Epicenter or MTX r-eq plus the lineout converter I suggested and you have a nice, cost efffective solution.

bigaudiofanat · 01-04-2010, 01:33 PM

The biggest difference from the re-q5 and the JL clean sweep is that the JL can do the cleaning of the signal a lot better than the re-q5 THAT us why a lot of people including myself recommend the re-q for the bass signal and the jl for the mids and highs or fronts. You can use the re-q5 but that is up to you. It might be cheaper but the prepossessing is not as good. This is probably one of the very few times that I recommend JL over something else.

lynxbat · 01-10-2010, 11:22 AM

Ok, this thread has given me enough confidence to pull the trigger on this. I have the Bose NAV and really just want good front components and a decent sub (though I can't decide on 10" x 2 vs. 12" x 1).

So far looks like:

MTX-ReQ for Sub
JL CleanSweep for Front Speakers
JL Amp for front
JL Amp for sub
JL Comp. Speakers x 2 for front
JL Comp. sub x (1 -12 or 2 - 10)
Zenclosure Box for subs
assorted speaker, power wire & sound mat

And back speakers will be disconnected.

Sound right? Anybody got advice on speaker/sub choice for a small 2-person car? I have only done this to trucks before.

SlikNik · 01-10-2010, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynxbat

Ok, this thread has given me enough confidence to pull the trigger on this. I have the Bose NAV and really just want good front components and a decent sub (though I can't decide on 10" x 2 vs. 12" x 1).

So far looks like:

MTX-ReQ for Sub
JL CleanSweep for Front Speakers
JL Amp for front
JL Amp for sub
JL Comp. Speakers x 2 for front
JL Comp. sub x (1 -12 or 2 - 10)
Zenclosure Box for subs
assorted speaker, power wire & sound mat

And back speakers will be disconnected.

Sound right? Anybody got advice on speaker/sub choice for a small 2-person car? I have only done this to trucks before.

Depends on how many watts you want to put to the sub. I have one JL 12w6v2 which has a sweetspot around 500 watts. It has great sound quality and a sweet punch.

postrin · 01-04-2010, 02:51 PM

ok, we'll agree to disagree, I've used them both, the JL has some cool features for adding accessories like ipod and TVs and such, but in the 370z they make very little sense on the navi unit. The re-q5 does an outstanding job for the price in my opinion

P

bigaudiofanat · 01-04-2010, 03:22 PM

Adding a tv? Please inform me how in the world you can add a tv to the JL clean sweep as I have never hear of such a thing. The aux input if that is what you are referring to adding a tv is made to bypass all the factory stuff and allow you to use a device such as an ipod going directly to the amps.

postrin · 01-04-2010, 04:08 PM

Sorry, when I say TV, I actually mean flip down monitor with DVD. I'm just saying that the cleansweep is cool because it gives you some added input through an aux, it has an option with the SES module for adding multiple aux inputs, but I'm not sure that is really needed in a z, how many people are adding headrest or flip down monitors into their z with factory bose that would need a cleansweep.

P

bigaudiofanat · 01-04-2010, 04:18 PM

The accord I did it turned out pretty nice. The accord has a factory aux port in the dash which I rewired and ran it to the JL clean sweep. Allowing the customer to use it without losing it or worrying about going threw the head unit. Just little things help but like I said both could be used I just prefer the JL.

jikhead · 01-04-2010, 09:18 PM

I used to have a TV monitor in my truck (Pioneer). However, with the digital to analog change over last year, these units no longer work.

jikhead · 01-06-2010, 11:08 PM

I am curious, if you do the stock radio with one of the devices (Re-Q or Cleansweep), would the radio's speed sensitivity feature still work or not? Also, has anyone actually installed one yet (any device such as this) in the Z with the factory radio? Just curious as to the wiring from the head unit and/or Bose amp to the device. And what about the fact that the front's are components? How is it being wired into the unit?

bigaudiofanat · 01-07-2010, 08:33 AM

Not sure about the speed sensor but yes a few people have done installs with the factory bose system. The wiring is in two places one for the sub behind the seats and I am not sure were the other is as I have not done the install yet. I did make this to help for the wiring. Now you can also wiring into the pre outs coming out from the head unit before they go to the amp but when I did an accord install even after switching the tab on the jl for low input it did not sound right.

Who Wants Bose Wiring Diagrams!!

jikhead · 01-07-2010, 10:54 AM

I was reading the install for the Audio Control LS6i, and it was stating to wire it from the head unit's amp or it's external amp if that is the case. I guess this would be best way, since I believe you mentioned something about the amp regulating the power. Does this sound right?

bigaudiofanat · 01-07-2010, 11:38 AM

The bose does not have a built in amp only an external one. So yes to wiring it to the external amp.

jikhead · 01-07-2010, 05:58 PM

No, I realize that...I was just repeating exactly what their manual said. What I was asking was what the idea proper placement for these units where for the Z: inbetween the head unit and amp-eliminating the factory amp...or after the factory amp?

bigaudiofanat · 01-07-2010, 06:05 PM

After the factory amp. Sorry I did not understand what you were asking.

01-04-2010, 10:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 52 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 18	Look in the classifieds on this site! There is a guy selling a custom enclosure that fits in the spare tire that has a Jl Audio 8" sub in it. Then use your PG M-50 (great amp BTW) and an Audio control Epicenter or MTX r-eq plus the lineout converter I suggested and you have a nice, cost efffective solution. __________________ To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

01-04-2010, 01:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	The biggest difference from the re-q5 and the JL clean sweep is that the JL can do the cleaning of the signal a lot better than the re-q5 THAT us why a lot of people including myself recommend the re-q for the bass signal and the jl for the mids and highs or fronts. You can use the re-q5 but that is up to you. It might be cheaper but the prepossessing is not as good. This is probably one of the very few times that I recommend JL over something else. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-04-2010, 03:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	Adding a tv? Please inform me how in the world you can add a tv to the JL clean sweep as I have never hear of such a thing. The aux input if that is what you are referring to adding a tv is made to bypass all the factory stuff and allow you to use a device such as an ipod going directly to the amps. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-04-2010, 04:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	The accord I did it turned out pretty nice. The accord has a factory aux port in the dash which I rewired and ran it to the JL clean sweep. Allowing the customer to use it without losing it or worrying about going threw the head unit. Just little things help but like I said both could be used I just prefer the JL. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-06-2010, 11:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
jikhead Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 425 Drives: 09 370Z Blue 6spd Rep Power: 186	I am curious, if you do the stock radio with one of the devices (Re-Q or Cleansweep), would the radio's speed sensitivity feature still work or not? Also, has anyone actually installed one yet (any device such as this) in the Z with the factory radio? Just curious as to the wiring from the head unit and/or Bose amp to the device. And what about the fact that the front's are components? How is it being wired into the unit? Last edited by jikhead; 01-06-2010 at 11:40 PM.

01-10-2010, 11:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
lynxbat Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 13 Drives: Nissan 370z M6 Blue Rep Power: 18	Ok, this thread has given me enough confidence to pull the trigger on this. I have the Bose NAV and really just want good front components and a decent sub (though I can't decide on 10" x 2 vs. 12" x 1). So far looks like: MTX-ReQ for Sub JL CleanSweep for Front Speakers JL Amp for front JL Amp for sub JL Comp. Speakers x 2 for front JL Comp. sub x (1 -12 or 2 - 10) Zenclosure Box for subs assorted speaker, power wire & sound mat And back speakers will be disconnected. Sound right? Anybody got advice on speaker/sub choice for a small 2-person car? I have only done this to trucks before.

01-04-2010, 02:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
postrin Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 23 Drives: Tacoma Rep Power: 17	ok, we'll agree to disagree, I've used them both, the JL has some cool features for adding accessories like ipod and TVs and such, but in the 370z they make very little sense on the navi unit. The re-q5 does an outstanding job for the price in my opinion P

01-04-2010, 04:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
postrin Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 23 Drives: Tacoma Rep Power: 17	Sorry, when I say TV, I actually mean flip down monitor with DVD. I'm just saying that the cleansweep is cool because it gives you some added input through an aux, it has an option with the SES module for adding multiple aux inputs, but I'm not sure that is really needed in a z, how many people are adding headrest or flip down monitors into their z with factory bose that would need a cleansweep. P

01-04-2010, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
jikhead Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 425 Drives: 09 370Z Blue 6spd Rep Power: 186	I used to have a TV monitor in my truck (Pioneer). However, with the digital to analog change over last year, these units no longer work.

01-07-2010, 08:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	Not sure about the speed sensor but yes a few people have done installs with the factory bose system. The wiring is in two places one for the sub behind the seats and I am not sure were the other is as I have not done the install yet. I did make this to help for the wiring. Now you can also wiring into the pre outs coming out from the head unit before they go to the amp but when I did an accord install even after switching the tab on the jl for low input it did not sound right. Who Wants Bose Wiring Diagrams!! __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-07-2010, 10:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
jikhead Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 425 Drives: 09 370Z Blue 6spd Rep Power: 186	I was reading the install for the Audio Control LS6i, and it was stating to wire it from the head unit's amp or it's external amp if that is the case. I guess this would be best way, since I believe you mentioned something about the amp regulating the power. Does this sound right?

01-07-2010, 11:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	The bose does not have a built in amp only an external one. So yes to wiring it to the external amp. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-07-2010, 05:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
jikhead Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 425 Drives: 09 370Z Blue 6spd Rep Power: 186	No, I realize that...I was just repeating exactly what their manual said. What I was asking was what the idea proper placement for these units where for the Z: inbetween the head unit and amp-eliminating the factory amp...or after the factory amp?

01-07-2010, 06:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	After the factory amp. Sorry I did not understand what you were asking. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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