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Originally Posted by chops what are you smoking? can i have some? the nismo comes stock with 285/35 on a 10.5 rim... anyway, that pic doesnt look right. 285 should

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Old 01-06-2014, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what are you smoking? can i have some? the nismo comes stock with 285/35 on a 10.5 rim...

anyway, that pic doesnt look right. 285 should fit MORE than fine on a 10.5 rim. in fact...stock sport wheels are 275 on a 10.5 rim. that rim must be 11" wide, or hes not running 285.

OP: if you have a nismo (which it looks like you do), depending on your suspension, i would not go 285 on the front wheels. im running 265/35 on the fronts and lowered about an inch from stock all around. i rub on dips, whereas i didnt used to rub ever on the stock 245/40 front. our nismo bumper unfortunately doesnt allow as wide of tires as the non-nismo guys.
Agreed... I have a 275 on a 10.5 wide rim right now and you definitely don't see too much stretch at ALL. 285 can only be better than that, unless it really depends on the tire as well.
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Agreed... I have a 275 on a 10.5 wide rim right now and you definitely don't see too much stretch at ALL. 285 can only be better than that, unless it really depends on the tire as well.
Do you have a pic by any chance? What tire brand are you running? I'm starting to learn toward a 275/35/19 on front and rears in Pilot Super Sports since they run a little wider and tirerack states it will fit/look similar to my 285/35/19 in advan sports
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Agreed... I have a 275 on a 10.5 wide rim right now and you definitely don't see too much stretch at ALL. 285 can only be better than that, unless it really depends on the tire as well.
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I've ran a 255/35/19 front, 295/30/19 rear setup for some time, and it never rubbed. (I was dropped on KWv3's at the time 1" all around. When I went to 265/35 up front they did rub in tight corners or on bumps mostly. So I raised the fronts a bit and that stopped.

On the stock sport 10" wheel, not a 10.5", that's only on the nismo's a 285/35 will be fine if you're going square. If you're doing a front/rear staggered setup, I'd recommend 265/35 front, 285/30 rear. That's what I'll probably going to for my next set as the price of PSS' is a big chunk, and PSS is discontinuing the 265/35 size.

I'll be looking into the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position in a 265/35, 285/30 setup for my next run. It always scores #2 on TR after the PSS.


If you're considering the RE-11's, I would shy away from them as a DD tire personally. They do not have the colder grip that the PSS' do, and no where near the lifespan. RE-11's are great for tracking, but not the best for DDing. That's where I think the S-04 would be a good option for you to look into as well. Being close to the PSS in performance, but for $400 less.
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I've ran a 255/35/19 front, 295/30/19 rear setup for some time, and it never rubbed. (I was dropped on KWv3's at the time 1" all around. When I went to 265/35 up front they did rub in tight corners or on bumps mostly. So I raised the fronts a bit and that stopped.

On the stock sport 10" wheel, not a 10.5", that's only on the nismo's a 285/35 will be fine if you're going square. If you're doing a front/rear staggered setup, I'd recommend 265/35 front, 285/30 rear. That's what I'll probably going to for my next set as the price of PSS' is a big chunk, and PSS is discontinuing the 265/35 size.

I'll be looking into the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position in a 265/35, 285/30 setup for my next run. It always scores #2 on TR after the PSS.


If you're considering the RE-11's, I would shy away from them as a DD tire personally. They do not have the colder grip that the PSS' do, and no where near the lifespan. RE-11's are great for tracking, but not the best for DDing. That's where I think the S-04 would be a good option for you to look into as well. Being close to the PSS in performance, but for $400 less.

I was told the S04's run narrow so that's good for the stretched look i'd imagine. Is there a benefit to less sidewall going with a 285/30 over a 285/35?
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I was told the S04's run narrow so that's good for the stretched look i'd imagine. Is there a benefit to less sidewall going with a 285/30 over a 285/35?
It will fit with no rubbing.

And you retain the OEM outer diameter so your speedo will be accurate.
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I got nothing but good things to say about the Bridgestone re-760's. I have them on my street 19's. I think they look pretty bad *** and they are fine for a track day(although I have separate wheels/tires for that). You will save some bread vs the re-11s which imo are a complete waste of money for street use. You never use 60% of what an RE-11 is capable of just street driving.
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Wish I had better pictures, but here they are... Enkei PF01 18x10.5 with Toyo R888 275/40r18 square.





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Wish I had better pictures, but here they are... Enkei PF01 18x10.5 with Toyo R888 275/40r18 square.





*edit* Syno, go away. Nobody likes you, nor your input on anything.

Love it!!! I especially love that tire tread.

Now for the billion questions... Lol

What offsets are you runnin? Camber? Are you lowered? Did you have to do any fender modding/do you rub?

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Love it!!! I especially love that tire tread.

Now for the billion questions... Lol

What offsets are you runnin? Camber? Are you lowered? Did you have to do any fender modding/do you rub?

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+38 front +15 rear. Camber is -2.5 front -1.5 rear, lowered on eibach springs. No fender modification. These pics were when I also was running a 10mm spacer on the front but I don't think it's necessary for sport brake clearance.

Syno, I could care less how many likes you have. I'm simply answering the questions they've asked. Never said it may be optimal or not but the times I've run the car on the track it felt great. I'm no expert but this isn't terribly wrong and I will probably go with a wider tire in the future. If it bothers you THAT much then
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+38 front +15 rear. Camber is -2.5 front -1.5 rear, lowered on eibach springs. No fender modification. These pics were when I also was running a 10mm spacer on the front but I don't think it's necessary for sport brake clearance.

Syno, I could care less how many likes you have. I'm simply answering the questions they've asked. Never said it may be optimal or not but the times I've run the car on the track it felt great. I'm no expert but this isn't terribly wrong and I will probably go with a wider tire in the future. If it bothers you THAT much then
You're answering the question with ignorance! I don't care if its worked for you or if you like it. You running that thin of a tire on that thick of a wheel is like playing Russian Roulette. You wouldn't tell a member to turbo the car and run 20psi with stock injectors and he doesn't need a tune would you? You wouldn't start telling people the torque spec of the lugs is 5ft/lbs would you? I don't care how it looks (looks retarded always), you need to give warning that's it's not recommended and possibly unsafe. There are a ton of newbs here who buy into **** that don't understand jack. Like I said, do it right or not at all. That's how I feel, live with it.
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You're answering the question with ignorance! I don't care if its worked for you or if you like it. You running that thin of a tire on that thick of a wheel is like playing Russian Roulette. You wouldn't tell a member to turbo the car and run 20psi with stock injectors and he doesn't need a tune would you? You wouldn't start telling people the torque spec of the lugs is 5ft/lbs would you? I don't care how it looks (looks retarded always), you need to give warning that's it's not recommended and possibly unsafe. There are a ton of newbs here who buy into **** that don't understand jack. Like I said, do it right or not at all. That's how I feel, live with it.

I definitely agree with the idea that a lot of people speak rubbish online and its our duty to try to sift with best of our judgements, using personal experience and basic physics even. At the end of the day, I value personal real unbiased experience over most people's "theoretical" experience, with one disclaimer: theres always those people that rarely say their stuff sucks because they bought it. I am not im the market for "best bangs for the buck". Buying this Z was a niche market choice and i believe we owe it to ourselves to value whats truly value added over whats a good deal.


However i think the examples of 5ft/lbs of torque are a little extreme. I agree, gear suggestions should always be followed with an explanation (helps noobs like me learn!).

In agreement with the above, I do know for the majority of options that a lot of street tires and ESPECIALLY most all season tires would be unadvisable with a 275/35/19 on a 10.5" width tire.

In agreement with the other person (again i really appreciate the pictures and feedback).I do know from personal experience at the tracks ive been to that a lot of sticky track tires and specifically some michelin tires and the yokohama neovas run especially wide and arent as stretched. My guess is because they are built with a much harder shoulder and sidewall.

For reference purposes my 285/35/19 in advan sport is a ~10.2" tread width on a 10.5" but an advan neova in 275/35/19 is a ~10.6". Another good example is my coworkers e55 amg. His 265/35 pilot cups ran wider than his new 285/35 hankook v12s.



Again i am not discrediting either statement. I am eternally grateful for feedback from both of you guys because it helps me see BOTH sides of the equation. Happy tuesday and keep the suggestions coming!


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You're answering the question with ignorance! I don't care if its worked for you or if you like it. You running that thin of a tire on that thick of a wheel is like playing Russian Roulette. You wouldn't tell a member to turbo the car and run 20psi with stock injectors and he doesn't need a tune would you? You wouldn't start telling people the torque spec of the lugs is 5ft/lbs would you? I don't care how it looks (looks retarded always), you need to give warning that's it's not recommended and possibly unsafe. There are a ton of newbs here who buy into **** that don't understand jack. Like I said, do it right or not at all. That's how I feel, live with it.
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I don't always agree with SynoLimit, but when I do, it's on issues of safety.

Running your tires this way delves a wee too bit much into ricer turf for me.

Besides, why waste your money on a tire you will never use 20% of. This tire is designed to operate at 165-200 degrees on a race track. For one, it's a complete waste of money.

Secondly, R-888's are not even really safe for street driving especially once it drops below 50 degrees. They are a frigging r-compound race tire that is legal to drive on the street to a track simply because it has some grooves to vent water.

I understand style and taste differences, people hate my plasti dipped hood-bra. But it is functional and I like the way it looks personally. I won't comment on the super stretched look but I don't personally like. The difference though is that your tire can explode and kill you. My plastidip-bra is just going to piss off my friend martin82 at the race track.

There are other good looking tires that fit whomever's wheel correctly. Buy those ones instead.
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Lol want some cheese with that wine cry baby?

Those look ******* horrible! Tires aren't supposed to look like round balls! Stop telling people to do this crap. That tires recommended to mount to a 9.5" wheel. Mod right or not at all!

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I don't see why it doesn't look good
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