Poor Handeling In The Rain

BigT

I'm on stock tires and stock suspension and have done upwards of 80mph in a bad rain storm. Its all about technique. I wouldn't try to accelerate/pass as if it was dry out and I would definitely would give a few extra car lengths to the car in front of you.

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Chuck33079

Were you being chased?

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BigT

No, this is NJ. We all drive like a$$holes.

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jlo370z

you would be passed on a Illinois highway LOL

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And Florida!

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amytorres5946

So, I know why my car doesn't handle in the rain!!! I was up for my 4k inspection but was procrastinating until my SLIP and ABS light came on. Took it in yesterday at 4,500 mi on it and they said my tread was gone, zip, nada!!!! I told them about the handling problems and they said this was why is was having issues and why the SLIP and ABS light were on only we were all stumped as to why so soon.
They have 100% even wear, the car was just aligned after the springs were put on a mth ago and I have a camber correction kit which is why they wore even. HOW IN THE HECK CAN A COMPANY JUSTIFY 4,500MI TIRE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read the reviews on these POSs and there are numerous complaints of handling poor in the rain and tread life..... which go hand in hand.

My sis in law has a new M5 and her tires were visibly bald (mine are textbook bald) around 8k so I called to see what brand they were and what do you know? POTENZAS!!!! BMW said 8 k is normal and did nothing for her. Makes sense why NISSAN looked clueless since they have 2 performance lines where as BMW deals with performance on a regular. Either way, 4k or 8k is ridiculous. Reviews range on tread life from 6k -23k ranging from Ford Fiestas to SUVs and all have the same mixture of reviews and complaints. Tires should be getting ~30k!

Could this company be interchangeably using different types of rubber for the "same" tire? If my tread was worn irregularly I could understand it being something other than the tire itself. I just see them trying to say it's the springs but I have had those springs on my last 3 cars with no problems only compliments. My Honda Accord, 350Z, and now 370z.....all never wore tires before their expected life expectancy. SO FRUSTERATED AND DON'T FEEL I SHOULD BEING BUYING NEW SHOES THIS EARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ChrisSlicks

Toe-in most greatly affects tire wear, they wear evenly so it is not detectable on anything but an alignment rack. Check the print out from your last alignment and see what they set the toe to.

Pretty much all of the extreme performance summer tires have poor tread life (<10k) although people have managed to get as much as 20k out of the OEM tires. They give the most grip in the dry but do not handle standing water well due to lack of tread. OEM's put these sticky tires on so that they report well in magazine comparisons for things like cornering G and slalom speed.

You can go with an intermediate summer tire like the Michelin PSS, you will get longer life and still have fairly good grip, but not to the same extreme in the dry (but will be a world better in the wet).

Bottom line, it's not the car, it's the tires. The car is very fast and predictable in the wet on the right tires.

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122554

Agree I'm running 305's and don't have any problem. But then again, I've been driving for a LOT of years!

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Chuck33079

Oh. Makes perfect sense.

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JARblue

The stock tires have very disappointing wear and wet weather performance IMO. My Nitto Invos have excellent wet weather performance. In fact, that was one of the main reasons I tried them out in the first place and was a friend's recommendation. My experience with the rear wheels was good enough to replace all four tires with them in my last tire change.

The other option is to slow down

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DrEvil

A few weeks ago I spun out on a highway in a rain that I never had a problem with before. Quite frightening. At one point I was heading south facing north. I'm still surprised and grateful that I didn't hit anyone or thing . Ended up facing south on the left hand shoulder. The tires were " new " Kumho Exta all season.( 18 k miles ). But due to the camber of the car the rears were worn in the center. The front show no sign of wear.
New rubber on order, but like an airplane pilot we should check the tires before each trip.
Damn scary that I could have been the " other guy " who caused an accident and hurt someone.
40 years of driving and this was the first time it ever happened.
The tire store told me this kind of wear is very common to the Zs' and G 37s'.
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RonRizz

Car hydroplanes, slow to safe speed. Sounds like the OP got it exactly right. Every car on the road has its breaking point...... Why go out and spend Crazy dollars on new tires so you can go 100mph in the rain?

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wstar

All sporty rear-wheel drive cars should come with a free half-day session of wet and dry runs on a skip-pad and a little slalom course prior to delivery. Imagine how many more lives that would save than yet another factory safety equipment regulation :P

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DarkJak

I have a similar issue in really heavy rain in the Z which I don't have in my Camry. Purely due to tire width and type I'm pretty sure, but still, I had to make two such trips from Nashville to Knoxville. Slowest, most stressful road trips of my life. I was going 40 or below while everyone else was still doing above speed limit.

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DEpointfive0

Tire width and the fact that your Camry is FWD and the engine's weight is all on the front

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