Traction problems?

AlexRaymond19 · 10-26-2011, 11:42 AM

Hey guys, haven't posten in a while, but I have a quick question. I have been noticing as of late that I'm getting really bad traction. Even with the vdc on when I get to around 5500-6000 rpms under wot the wheels break loose in first gear. I thought it was just bad conditions, but even when it is bone dry out it's still happening. Now I can deal with it, but the dame thing happened in second gear today, which leads me to believe there is something wrong... I only have a CIA done to it, so it's not because of too much hp (if such a thing exists) and the tires still look brand new. Hardly any ware. Any ideas? Thanks!

Oh yeah, and my starts/launches seem normal enough... And I have also noticed that i can take the rpms a hair past 8000. Is that normal? Did I get some factory freak 370z?

ImportConvert · 10-26-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Hey guys, haven't posten in a while, but I have a quick question. I have been noticing as of late that I'm getting really bad traction. Even with the vdc on when I get to around 5500-6000 rpms under wot the wheels break loose in first gear. I thought it was just bad conditions, but even when it is bone dry out it's still happening. Now I can deal with it, but the dame thing happened in second gear today, which leads me to believe there is something wrong... I only have a CIA done to it, so it's not because of too much hp (if such a thing exists) and the tires still look brand new. Hardly any ware. Any ideas? Thanks!

Oh yeah, and my starts/launches seem normal enough... And I have also noticed that i can take the rpms a hair past 8000. Is that normal? Did I get some factory freak 370z?

-Fuel cut happens well before 8K rpm
-Looking at your sig it looks like you have a peg-leg car, which I am suprised will hook even up to 5500rpm. You need an LSD or REALLY GOOD tire.

cossie1600 · 10-26-2011, 12:33 PM

It's cold and you have summer tires. Take it easy and replace your tires, please don't make my insurance go up

Rone · 10-26-2011, 12:53 PM

You live in Maine and it's almost november....hmmmm, what could it be? lol, just messing with ya.

emx620 · 10-26-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Hey guys, haven't posten in a while, but I have a quick question. I have been noticing as of late that I'm getting really bad traction. Even with the vdc on when I get to around 5500-6000 rpms under wot the wheels break loose in first gear. I thought it was just bad conditions, but even when it is bone dry out it's still happening. Now I can deal with it, but the dame thing happened in second gear today, which leads me to believe there is something wrong... I only have a CIA done to it, so it's not because of too much hp (if such a thing exists) and the tires still look brand new. Hardly any ware. Any ideas? Thanks!

Oh yeah, and my starts/launches seem normal enough... And I have also noticed that i can take the rpms a hair past 8000. Is that normal? Did I get some factory freak 370z?

Have you checked your tire pressure? I thought I needed new rear tires due to a loss in traction, and then found out ALL my tires were around 25PSI instead of the rated 36PSI. After they filled them to the proper level, my traction is much better.

6MT · 10-26-2011, 02:06 PM

You have tire issues & Foot on gas pedal issues!

shadoquad · 10-26-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's cold and you have summer tires. Take it easy and replace your tires, please don't make my insurance go up

This could be a large part of it.

m4a1mustang · 10-26-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

This could be a large part of it.

I'd say it is a large part of it.

Summer compound tires really lose a lot of grip when temps dip below 50*F. It takes a while for them to warm up, but they still won't be as grippy as they would on a 70-80 degree day.

When temps drop even lower, closer to freezing and below, summer compounds are worthless as they turn into hockey pucks.

shadoquad · 10-26-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'd say it is a large part of it.

Summer compound tires really lose a lot of grip when temps dip below 50*F. It takes a while for them to warm up, but they still won't be as grippy as they would on a 70-80 degree day.

When temps drop even lower, closer to freezing and below, summer compounds are worthless as they turn into hockey pucks.

yep. That's when Chiana takes a nap on my driveway and hibernates until Zdayz.

m4a1mustang · 10-26-2011, 03:27 PM

Eurodance puts on some winter shoes.

280z/300zx · 10-26-2011, 05:46 PM

It's funny, my 370z will flash the traction light at me all the way up into 3rd gear at WOT in the summer here in Vegas (110+ temps). This is both with my current Nismo and my previous touring/sport (essentially both with LSD). I just chalk it up to crappy stock tires. Plan to go to RE-11's at some point or what ever happens to be the best tire at the time. For now I just make sure to watch it when going WOT. Now that it's getting colder the tires definetly don't hook up very well. Still, I find it odd that even in the summer I can breack traction at WOT in 3rd. I'd say it's problem with my car except that it's happend with both 370z's.

Our 2010 Camaro SS on the other hand with worse stock tires, more hp, more torque has much better traction. Might be due to the MORE weight and longer wheel base also???

m4a1mustang · 10-26-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

It's funny, my 370z will flash the traction light at me all the way up into 3rd gear at WOT in the summer here in Vegas (110+ temps). This is both with my current Nismo and my previous touring/sport (essentially both with LSD). I just chalk it up to crappy stock tires. Plan to go to RE-11's at some point or what ever happens to be the best tire at the time. For now I just make sure to watch it when going WOT. Now that it's getting colder the tires definetly don't hook up very well. Still, I find it odd that even in the summer I can breack traction at WOT in 3rd. I'd say it's problem with my car except that it's happend with both 370z's.

Our 2010 Camaro SS on the other hand with worse stock tires, more hp, more torque has much better traction. Might be due to the MORE weight and longer wheel base also???

Would it break traction in 3rd after a hard shift or just when you floor it? A hard shift would explain it for the Z, otherwise I'd say the roads might just be dusty and lack grip overall.

The Camaro likely benefits from the added weight and rearward weight transfer under acceleration. Is it an auto or manual?

shaun66 · 10-26-2011, 08:08 PM

I agree, mostly with the last part.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's cold and you have summer tires. Take it easy and replace your tires, please don't make my insurance go up

ImportConvert · 10-27-2011, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'd say it is a large part of it.

Summer compound tires really lose a lot of grip when temps dip below 50*F. It takes a while for them to warm up, but they still won't be as grippy as they would on a 70-80 degree day.

When temps drop even lower, closer to freezing and below, summer compounds are worthless as they turn into hockey pucks.

That too, I keep forgetting that people who live with the rest of the world actually have seasons. I'll be joining you guys in another year!

m4a1mustang · 10-27-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

That too, I keep forgetting that people who live with the rest of the world actually have seasons. I'll be joining you guys in another year!

Where are you moving to?

10-26-2011, 11:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	Traction problems? Hey guys, haven't posten in a while, but I have a quick question. I have been noticing as of late that I'm getting really bad traction. Even with the vdc on when I get to around 5500-6000 rpms under wot the wheels break loose in first gear. I thought it was just bad conditions, but even when it is bone dry out it's still happening. Now I can deal with it, but the dame thing happened in second gear today, which leads me to believe there is something wrong... I only have a CIA done to it, so it's not because of too much hp (if such a thing exists) and the tires still look brand new. Hardly any ware. Any ideas? Thanks! Oh yeah, and my starts/launches seem normal enough... And I have also noticed that i can take the rpms a hair past 8000. Is that normal? Did I get some factory freak 370z? __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	It's cold and you have summer tires. Take it easy and replace your tires, please don't make my insurance go up

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280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 272	It's funny, my 370z will flash the traction light at me all the way up into 3rd gear at WOT in the summer here in Vegas (110+ temps). This is both with my current Nismo and my previous touring/sport (essentially both with LSD). I just chalk it up to crappy stock tires. Plan to go to RE-11's at some point or what ever happens to be the best tire at the time. For now I just make sure to watch it when going WOT. Now that it's getting colder the tires definetly don't hook up very well. Still, I find it odd that even in the summer I can breack traction at WOT in 3rd. I'd say it's problem with my car except that it's happend with both 370z's. Our 2010 Camaro SS on the other hand with worse stock tires, more hp, more torque has much better traction. Might be due to the MORE weight and longer wheel base also???