New Achilles ATR Sport 2 Delaminating After Donuts in the Rain

devaju · 11-27-2019, 03:31 PM

Hi everyone

I'm running ATR Sport 2's on my back tires because I want to learn to drift. I've had them on for about 6000 miles. The other night after it had been raining all day I decided it's a good time to go do some "spirited driving" and afterward throw some fuel stabilizer in since I'm sorta storing the 370z for the winter. The next day I notice the right back tire is leaking air.

So I have to take it for an oil change for the winter and we get it on the lift and I notice the LEFT back tire has delaminated and about half of the tread is missing. I also didn't find any nails in the back right tire.

I bought these tires recently at walmart and they had a recent manufacture date. I also haven't done any serious burnouts in them and there is tons of tread left.

Has anyone had similar issues with Achilles tires? Do you think I could claim some sort of warranty?

JARblue · 11-27-2019, 04:04 PM

Achilles are extremely cheap tires. You get what you pay for, so this doesn't surprise me in the least. But I would definitely attempt to warranty them. Don't mention the donuts...

vtec to vvel · 11-27-2019, 05:29 PM

I had Achilles tires on my 350Z once way back when I first got outta college. Aside from the very pronounced road noises, stability on those tires were questionable, which technically could make them good practice throw-away tires I suppose. In fact, I do recall a few times when I would almost WOT and could feel the tire losing grip and the rear feeling like it was going to give out. They don’t last for sh*t and they are not that much cheaper than some of the other brand names.

Spooler · 11-27-2019, 08:02 PM

This is not uncommon for a Chinese knock off tire. Get something else before you hurt yourself.

Rusty · 11-29-2019, 12:28 AM

They're cheap for a reason.

NorthStyle · 12-01-2019, 11:48 AM

If you're just using them to practice drifting then warranty them and replace them. You don't need anything fancy or expensive for the time being.

2011 Nismo#91 · 12-02-2019, 05:31 AM

Cheap Indonesian Tires. Their fine for crossovers and simple A to B drives but nothing more.

Tractionless · 12-14-2019, 08:15 AM

sirnixalot · 12-14-2019, 09:06 AM

I have them in 275/35 on my stock wheels. The same week I got them they started to flake off the outer tread blocks. I knew they were 420 tw but they were like driving on ice. I am not sure if I am giving them a fair review since I am comparing them to my new staggered setup (285 front 325 rear) on 300tw Coopers, I can take roundabouts with SO much more confidence.

11-27-2019, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
devaju Base Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: MI Posts: 20 Drives: 2012 370z 6MT Rep Power: 6	New Achilles ATR Sport 2 Delaminating After Donuts in the Rain Hi everyone I'm running ATR Sport 2's on my back tires because I want to learn to drift. I've had them on for about 6000 miles. The other night after it had been raining all day I decided it's a good time to go do some "spirited driving" and afterward throw some fuel stabilizer in since I'm sorta storing the 370z for the winter. The next day I notice the right back tire is leaking air. So I have to take it for an oil change for the winter and we get it on the lift and I notice the LEFT back tire has delaminated and about half of the tread is missing. I also didn't find any nails in the back right tire. I bought these tires recently at walmart and they had a recent manufacture date. I also haven't done any serious burnouts in them and there is tons of tread left. Has anyone had similar issues with Achilles tires? Do you think I could claim some sort of warranty? Last edited by devaju; 12-04-2019 at 08:02 AM. Reason: discretion

11-27-2019, 04:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Achilles are extremely cheap tires. You get what you pay for, so this doesn't surprise me in the least. But I would definitely attempt to warranty them. Don't mention the donuts... hrtbrknprince, Hotrodz and Tractionless like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

11-27-2019, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,903 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 499553	I had Achilles tires on my 350Z once way back when I first got outta college. Aside from the very pronounced road noises, stability on those tires were questionable, which technically could make them good practice throw-away tires I suppose. In fact, I do recall a few times when I would almost WOT and could feel the tire losing grip and the rear feeling like it was going to give out. They don’t last for sht and they are not that much cheaper than some of the other brand names. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t*

11-29-2019, 12:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,860 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	They're cheap for a reason. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

12-01-2019, 11:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
NorthStyle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Deutschland + SC/FL USA Posts: 1,235 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 24276	If you're just using them to practice drifting then warranty them and replace them. You don't need anything fancy or expensive for the time being. devaju likes this.

11-27-2019, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,509 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	This is not uncommon for a Chinese knock off tire. Get something else before you hurt yourself.

12-02-2019, 05:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,381 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 33858	Cheap Indonesian Tires. Their fine for crossovers and simple A to B drives but nothing more. iDaRkkO likes this.

12-14-2019, 08:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,237 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30525	__________________ Toys Not Tots

12-14-2019, 09:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57453	I have them in 275/35 on my stock wheels. The same week I got them they started to flake off the outer tread blocks. I knew they were 420 tw but they were like driving on ice. I am not sure if I am giving them a fair review since I am comparing them to my new staggered setup (285 front 325 rear) on 300tw Coopers, I can take roundabouts with SO much more confidence. __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

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