EcuTek is proud to announce the release of ProECU Tuning Tools for the Nissan 370Z

JARblue · 05-28-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

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First, let's be clear: no one chose me. I chose EcuTek. Dynotronics put a thread out there about wanting a stock Z to mess with (at the time Joe was already working on a track Z - unfortunately, not on the forum) and I jumped at the opportunity and price because let's be honest, there's no need for me to spend $500+ on a tune with my current mods.

All of your points make perfect sense. But some of them work against each other in the real world. EcuTek isn't going to FI a Z and then do all the research on tuning it - they're going to wait until the demand is out there and then work on unlocking previously unavailable features (like VVEL) via software, their specialty. So it then falls to the certified tuners to acquire (whether through a customer or their own car) a FI Z to do full testing and tuning on. EcuTek releases a beta so that people can start testing some features even if others aren't yet available (and likely to help them gauge the public interest). Like you said, "Try getting someone who has boost on their car, after all the money they spent to be a test guinea for this company. Just not gonna happen." Unfortunately, it looks like that's what it's going to take.

People want results. Perfectly reasonable. But a lot of things have to align for them to appear on this forum, and that doesn't appear to be on the fast track to happening. Hopefully, people like MKG can change that

And this is the internet. When I say something irritates me, its more like this

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elperuano · 05-28-2013, 02:39 PM

Seems like we'll never get VVEL tuning

MyKindaGuise · 05-28-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Seems like we'll never get VVEL tuning

Someone needs to pony up the money and buy a used VQ37 off ebay. They go for cheap...like 2-3k. Then let a shop mess with that.

Like this
09 Nissan 370Z Touring Edition Factory Complete Engine Assembly 39K Z34 VQ37 | eBay

JARblue · 05-28-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Someone needs to pony up the money and buy a used VQ37 off ebay. They go for cheap...like 2-3k. Then let a shop mess with that.

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09 Nissan 370Z Touring Edition Factory Complete Engine Assembly 39K Z34 VQ37 | eBay

That's not a bad idea

Probably don't need to pay extra for the "Touring Edition" though

MyKindaGuise · 05-28-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

That's not a bad idea

Probably don't need to pay extra for the "Touring Edition" though

Haha it was the first I could find that wasnt the awd version. Anyways I've seen them go for $2000 flat already with low miles.

chrischhorn · 05-28-2013, 03:35 PM

elperuano- the way you are attacking EcuTek about "not havin their product ready" sounds like you think UpRev was full featured and ready to go out of the starting gate. UpRev still updates constantly.

jofro6 · 05-28-2013, 03:48 PM

I have no tune experience at all either, which is why im going to lean towards EcuTek, to help the community out. Im not crazy modded, basic bolt on, test pipes, exhaust, and intakes will be on the way shortly. I've PMed Visconti about what tune deals hes going to be doing and when he will be back in my area for it. Just waiting to hear back.
But if necessary I will contemplate a remote tune from Dynotronics. Especially with his guarantee of free tune updates and the such like that. Only thing is then I will not have a dyno graph for proven results. But I am more than willing to 'help out' in these beta phases of this software

elperuano · 05-28-2013, 04:25 PM

I'm not attacking ECUtek at all. Just want proof of what they're claiming like everyone else has stated. If ECUtek can do what they claim it will be a great product.

As far as Uprev goes when they originally released the software they had their eggs in order if I recall from my350 days. More organized and it went smoothly. The knock on then was that it wasn't a complete stand-alone.

Dynotronics1 · 05-28-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

I'm not attacking ECUtek at all. Just want proof of what they're claiming like everyone else has stated. If ECUtek can do what they claim it will be a great product.

As far as Uprev goes when they originally released the software they had their eggs in order if I recall from my350 days. More organized and it went smoothly. The knock on then was that it wasn't a complete stand-alone.

I have been sitting here reading this today, and you keep mentioning "proof". Care to expand on what it is you would like to see?

elperuano · 05-28-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1

I have been sitting here reading this today, and you keep mentioning "proof". Care to expand on what it is you would like to see?

Huh??? I'm assuming ur joking or sumthin. If you have been reading there's plenty of people that asked the same thing. I'm just repeating them basically.

Dynotronics1 · 05-28-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Huh??? I'm assuming ur joking or sumthin. If you have been reading there's plenty of people that asked the same thing. I'm just repeating them basically.

no I'm not joking at all, only asking a serious question. You asked for proof, and I am trying to figure out of what; that the software exists, that it allows adjustment of more parameters?

If your looking for dyno sheets, JV did post a before and after sheet on the first car he did.

Alstann · 05-28-2013, 04:51 PM

I feel like people are pretty antsy about this product - personally, I'm not sure why. I think once a few more cars get tuned, as well as seeing regular updates to the software, it will become more and more a viable option for tuning. I know I'm sure interested in the FI applications as well as VVEL control. Patience is the key, and let's not get mad at a new tuning product for the Z34 platform.

Chuck33079 · 05-28-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

As far as Uprev goes when they originally released the software they had their eggs in order if I recall from my350 days. More organized and it went smoothly.

Other than that vvel stuff, right?

I think we'd all like to see some dyno sheets and numbers. I don't really consider that proof per se, but at least it's quantifiable.

elperuano · 05-28-2013, 04:58 PM

We didnt have VVEL tuning on the DE motors.

elperuano · 05-28-2013, 05:09 PM

Well pretty much what others have stated. ECUtek is claiming to be superior to UPrev. I see no dyno sheets, the original post just has words but no actual proof to back it up in THIS community. Lot of tuners I've spoken with know about it but haven't used it yet. What gains can be bad from ECUtek that can't be had from uprev.
The 1 dyno sheet is of an almost stock Z. U can't be referring to that can you??? Side by side comparisons of an uprev tune and an ECUtek tune (with a car that has mods). From good tuners also.
How is ECUtek superior to uprev when it seems its still in the "beta" phase while uprev has been out in this community for years.

No knock against ECUtek at all but I'd like to see what can be done before switching. Why aren't there more tuners out there that are familiar with this software? Most don't know or won't want to switch (yet). But if that's the case then it seems from the outside lookin in that this is a little premature.

05-28-2013, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	Seems like we'll never get VVEL tuning JARblue likes this.

05-28-2013, 03:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
chrischhorn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Mililani, HI Posts: 1,566 Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS Rep Power: 18	elperuano- the way you are attacking EcuTek about "not havin their product ready" sounds like you think UpRev was full featured and ready to go out of the starting gate. UpRev still updates constantly. __________________ R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ One day I'll have another....

05-28-2013, 03:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
jofro6 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 603 Drives: 2012 370Z Touring Rep Power: 16	I have no tune experience at all either, which is why im going to lean towards EcuTek, to help the community out. Im not crazy modded, basic bolt on, test pipes, exhaust, and intakes will be on the way shortly. I've PMed Visconti about what tune deals hes going to be doing and when he will be back in my area for it. Just waiting to hear back. But if necessary I will contemplate a remote tune from Dynotronics. Especially with his guarantee of free tune updates and the such like that. Only thing is then I will not have a dyno graph for proven results. But I am more than willing to 'help out' in these beta phases of this software __________________ 2012 Red 6Spd Touring/Nav.. FI CF NonRes CBE and Res TP #682 Fly1 RS1 CF Fenders

05-28-2013, 04:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Alstann Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 882 Drives: 12 PW 370z 6MT Sport Rep Power: 16	I feel like people are pretty antsy about this product - personally, I'm not sure why. I think once a few more cars get tuned, as well as seeing regular updates to the software, it will become more and more a viable option for tuning. I know I'm sure interested in the FI applications as well as VVEL control. Patience is the key, and let's not get mad at a new tuning product for the Z34 platform. __________________ 2012 Pearl White 370Z GReddy Twin Turbo

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05-28-2013, 04:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	I'm not attacking ECUtek at all. Just want proof of what they're claiming like everyone else has stated. If ECUtek can do what they claim it will be a great product. As far as Uprev goes when they originally released the software they had their eggs in order if I recall from my350 days. More organized and it went smoothly. The knock on then was that it wasn't a complete stand-alone.

05-28-2013, 04:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	We didnt have VVEL tuning on the DE motors.

05-28-2013, 05:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	Well pretty much what others have stated. ECUtek is claiming to be superior to UPrev. I see no dyno sheets, the original post just has words but no actual proof to back it up in THIS community. Lot of tuners I've spoken with know about it but haven't used it yet. What gains can be bad from ECUtek that can't be had from uprev. The 1 dyno sheet is of an almost stock Z. U can't be referring to that can you??? Side by side comparisons of an uprev tune and an ECUtek tune (with a car that has mods). From good tuners also. How is ECUtek superior to uprev when it seems its still in the "beta" phase while uprev has been out in this community for years. No knock against ECUtek at all but I'd like to see what can be done before switching. Why aren't there more tuners out there that are familiar with this software? Most don't know or won't want to switch (yet). But if that's the case then it seems from the outside lookin in that this is a little premature.