no I'm not joking at all, only asking a serious question. You asked for proof, and I am trying to figure out of what; that the software exists, that it allows adjustment of more parameters?

If your looking for dyno sheets, JV did post a before and after sheet on the first car he did.

Well pretty much what others have stated. ECUtek is claiming to be superior to UPrev. I see no dyno sheets, the original post just has words but no actual proof to back it up in THIS community. Lot of tuners I've spoken with know about it but haven't used it yet. What gains can be bad from ECUtek that can't be had from uprev.
The 1 dyno sheet is of an almost stock Z. U can't be referring to that can you??? Side by side comparisons of an uprev tune and an ECUtek tune (with a car that has mods). From good tuners also.
How is ECUtek superior to uprev when it seems its still in the "beta" phase while uprev has been out in this community for years.

No knock against ECUtek at all but I'd like to see what can be done before switching. Why aren't there more tuners out there that are familiar with this software? Most don't know or won't want to switch (yet). But if that's the case then it seems from the outside lookin in that this is a little premature.

My bad. I thought we were discussing uprev for the 370. Which still hasn't given full control of vvel. We really shouldn't be comparing ecutek to uprev until the full featured version is available. We're sitting here criticizing a beta test. In time, we'll have results. Does anyone really want to be an early adopter of something as important as engine management?

I'm more than happy to be an early adopter. All I want is VVEL control and a guarantee that if my valves crash into my pistons that I won't be the one paying for the repairs.

well first off, there is nothing "beta" about it. All EcuTek tuners are able to get the SW suite at this time. SW is very complete, however Ecutek is always updating the different platforms. We get almost daily SW updates from EcuTek on all of the platforms we work with.

Second, you need to note that it was one vendor, not EcuTek, that said the SW is better that what is currently on the market. I did not make the statement mentioned above, but in my opinion, as a Pro tuning shop, and a mechanical engineer, having used both, the Ecutek is better.

Why don't more tuners know about it? Good question, maybe your asking the wrong tuners? Most professional tuning shops in the US, and the world, know who Ecutek is, and quite a few of them use the SW. If you were to drop around to a shop that has Subaru clients, or Mazda, or Mitsubishi, or even Nissan( that has done Juke, or GTR work), I think you would find the story different. They may or may not use EcuTek, but I assure you, they know who they are.

What can EcuTek do that Uprev can't? Also a damn fine question; the short answer is expand. Expand the reach of a pro tuner into areas such as VVEL and VVT, as well as simplified ignition tuning for boosted cars. And yes, map switching is coming, along with custom tables to allow a wide range of adjustments to things like traction control, per gear rev limits, flat foot shifting, launch control, etc, etc.

Is it for everyone? Nope. There are those that will never be happy unless they can tinker with the tuning themselves, and I doubt that will happen anytime soon. But it is a good option, and for those of you who like uprev, think of it this way; maybe a new option will make them move ahead

Oh, and about your statement "From good tuners also", you might want to look Visconti up, he is one of the best tuners in the country. Yes he can be a bit of an ***( and I think of him as a friend) but that's just the way John comes off on the computer. He does know how to tune a car

Maybe beta was the wrong word, but it's the "coming soon" features I'm most excited about.

Just wanted to clarify

What can EcuTek do that "And yes, map switching is coming, along with custom tables to allow a wide range of adjustments to things like traction control, per gear rev limits, flat foot shifting, launch control, etc, etc. "

Coming along as in still not there yet and working on it correct?

Yes, again I know ECUtek is good on other platforms. Which is why I stated how is it good HERE for THIS community. I love Subbies and evos, but I don't have one.

Again, tuners know about ECUtek but so far not many use ECUtek to tune the 370/g37.

Well, maybe that's because the software was just made available?

"Coming along as in still not there yet and working on it correct?". Nope. Coming as in this is what the future holds for the sw. As of last week( Friday) they were working on a update to the GTR suite. Since the 370 SW is a piggyback( meaning the knowledge gained from the R&D, and ongoing research) of the GTR, I expect to see those features added shortly.

I will also point out something your seemed to have overlooked; if someone gets the license and a calibration now( at least from us), the updates(including any and all RaceRom future releases) is free.

According to the the site there are about 14 tuners in North America ... including some places that cater to this community alot, like GTM.

Thanks for the clarity. Didnt know the software with those features were just made available. We have been reading that it was "coming" for about a month now which was my personal complaint about it.

As far as future updates being free that's cool but if I'm not mistaken that's the norm with uprev.

Lookin forward to future updates.

That's like readin a brochure man. How many 370/g37 u know out there with the ECUtek? And for fun sake, Gtm is listed on there as a tuner but they package Uprev into their TT deals.

I'm all for this product. I hope they bring what they say they will.

I give you credit for wanting to be an early adopter of VVEL. I know I couldn't do it even with guarantee of valves crashing into pistons.

Ecutek has been out to the public for a little over a month I really think people need to give it time. This constant push for VVEL seems a bit extreme and people seem to be overlooking some of the other features. One key feature that Ecutek already has over Uprev is full ignition timing control something UPrev does not have or added in the last 5 years to this platform.

My bad, I thought you were saying (multiple times) that no one is using or has the software.

What would be really cool would be to take my UPREV tuned rig somewhere and do a before dyno (baseline with UPREV) and after dyno. :tup:

I'm well aware of these other features. Visconti spent probably close to an hour showing me the software in detail (pointing out the differences from Uprev along the way) when he was at a nearby shop awhile back.

I brought this up to Visconti and he pointed out one simple flaw and that is all tuners are not created equal. Basically you'd have to get your ECUtek tuner to tune it with Uprev first and then with ECUtek to get an apples to apples comparison.

So... Again I ask, since I think my question sparked the debate on the wrong tangent... :icon17:


When can we (as end users) expect to see a FULL release of a completed (Non-Beta version; updates are a given with any SW package so thats a moot point) ECUTek tuning package?

i.e. I go to a tuner/shop, and say I want an ECUTek tune. When will all features be available for a tune with no hesitation from the tuner/shop because the R&D work is completed? The product is no longer Beta, but full release?



I am not negating any of the possibilities of improvement from ECUTek, I have never had experience with any other tuning platform, so I don't know their credibility outside of the 370Z world. All I (me, myself) am trying to do is get a ballpark date as I am looking to have my UpRev tune given a 2nd opinion, and by an ECUTek tuner as well, so that when I go to do this tune check-up, if I decide to convert to ECUTek, I know I won't need to come back multiple times as new features become fully developed...

Sooo.... GTM is giving buyers the option to use Ecutek with their MHI kits.... That is pretty substantial and very telling of the software status.

Indeed. :tup:

It'll be pretty interesting to see how dyno results come out for both options. Obviously different dynos and different conditions won't yield great comparison data but if ECUtek is always giving better results I think that speaks for itself.

it is pretty interesting... hope your build would be able to take advantage of that news aswell...

And it means that we'll have a large sample size of results on boosted Zs. For those (myself included) who are on the fence waiting for more end user feedback, this is huge.

Any tuners in the San Diego area? I'm gonna do some bolt on mods in the next few months and I would want to retune afterwards.

I have to say that I am liking the sound of this.
Living in the most isolated capital city in the world (literally), tuning options are very limited with only a handful of workshops having any experience with UpRev. There are not that many 370Z's on the road over here and I have one of only about 4 or 5 370GT's in the state. Looking at the ECUTek website it looks there are far more garages in Aus which have this software and have been using it for quite sometime. I know that its not necessarily on our specific models but any experience at all with the software has to be an advantage.

Even if all of the additional features are not yet fully available, just having another tuning option is already encouraging. Just the mere possibility of having launch control somehow worked into the ECU seems awesome.

just call me, and we can take care of you with no problems

I'm going with Ecutek for my GTM MHI TT. I called the only shop in my area that's listed as a tuner and they said they actually just have Visconti do e-tunes. He's supposed to be contacting him to see what they can do for me. I hope all these new features roll out soon. I'd love to be able to control boost, use launch control, and dial in the VDC.

Will there be launch contorl for the 7 AT's ?

will do, PM'd

I mentioned to Mike when I gave him a call on Saturday among a few other things.
Me: I saw that you posted about having Ecutek as an option for the MHI kits. I remember we talked back in December about the blow through issue with high flowing exhausts and supercharging. With my car having PPE's, do you think that tuning with the Ecutek and their VVEL adjustments could benefit me?
Mike: It is definitely something we can discuss with Sam and using it on your car instead."

With the overlap of VVEL on SC'd vehicles, it can be difficult to build enough boost to get these compressors operating at peak efficiency. I do have a HFC on the Y pipe and a 2.75" restriction at my mid pipe, so I'm not sure how that will affect it. I do have a gut feeling that I will see a positive effect using Ecutek specifically because I know GTM IS making VVEL adjustments with it as opposed to Uprev and it's beta version.

When I talked to Sam about mine and the VVEL he told me to leave it alone b/c the adjustment range was small so he told me not to fuss with it.

Well everyone. I am not sure how long we will have to wait to see a boosted Z running Ecutek. Been waiting for 2 weeks to hear back from both of these shops posting here...The one just blatantly ignores PM's. Trying a 3rd shop that is a bit more local and that has worked with me quite a bit and I have had an awesome experience with.

if your talking about us, it has nothing to do with ignoring PMs, we just don't see them. Always best to call direct, or email to sales@dynotronicstuning.com

Did you change your torque converter? If not, nothing in the ECU will raise or lower the stall.

Fair enough. I will move this to email as I'm not in a position to make calls during the day.

:tup:

Any tuning options near St. Louis yet?

sure, just give us a ring and we will get ya taken care of

Let's try this for a 3rd time... :ugh2:

I'm not sure anyone here has the answer you are looking for. It's possible EcuTek isn't calling this beta anymore because the 370Z is now listed on their website. I don't believe multiple maps is available yet, so it will likely be included in a software update.

EcuTek - Tuneable Parameters

EcuTek - RaceROM Nissan 370Z

That's awesome that it will be capable of having all these features tuned, which for the non-tuner, showing an image of 500 tables to which someone without knowledge would just say... that's nice... doesn't really tell me anything.

My question was simple, When can I as a prospective client, go to an ECUTek tuner, and get a Full tuning package done, not the halfway stuff they're doing now, or a "beta". But everything all at once...

"I Don't Know." is an acceptable answer.

My tune is not halfway... it is at least equal to what UpRev can do.

Everything available now could easily constitute a "full tuning package"... there's a few features not yet available (multiple maps and traction control stuff, I think). Everything else is good to go as far as I'm aware... now it's just a matter of getting data logged, cars tuned, and more information to the general public. If you want everything all at once, I'm not sure anyone knows when that will be. Maybe call EcuTek...

What about tuning from a tuner? How many tuners out there do dyno-tuning with ECUtek? I see a lot of e-tunes. Only 1 dyno tune

Should clarify. How many tuners out there do dyno-tuning with ECUtek ON the VQ platform?