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-   -   EcuTek is proud to announce the release of ProECU Tuning Tools for the Nissan 370Z (http://www.the370z.com/tuning/69946-ecutek-proud-announce-release-proecu-tuning-tools-nissan-370z.html)

puckshaw 06-12-2013 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2336764)
Big announcement!!

We are pleased to announce another feature to our turbo kit system!

EcuTEK will be available as an option with our Turbo Kit that has some great features listed below.
  • Boost control. Yes, that means the factory ECU will be able to control boost which means having different boost levels via map switching. This eliminates the need for a standalone boost controller.
  • Boost Cut protection
  • Hybrid MAF/Speed Density Tuning
  • VVEL and VVT Tuning
  • Flat Foot Shifting
  • Flex Fuel (E85)
Stay tuned for more details.

We are pleased to announce that we are now accepting payment since we have a better idea of when the kits will start shipping and are getting closer to our estimated shipping target of June/July. Shipping the kits will be first come, first serve. So once the kit is paid via one of our payment options, you will be added to the shipping list in the order received.

Also, we will be starting another group buy for everyone that wishes to have our new baffled oil pan.
I'll ask again. Are the above features available now?

MacLean 06-12-2013 08:36 AM
:icon18: :iagree:

I will ask this question again. When can we start seeing some actual dyno graphs because it has been a month at least if not longer? I am a number's guys, so I love to see graphs & figures. Please show me some actual solid figures on what this great product has done. I do not mind reading, but I'm not a huge reader. I just keep reading blaah blaah he said/she said nuance.

PROOF & FIGURES DO NOT LIE, but can be deceiving in a way.

Alstann 06-12-2013 08:51 AM
I'm assuming when the MHI TT kits start shipping out and getting installed, we'll all have our proof. I personally went EcuTEK myself. We'll see what happens. ^^

Chuck33079 06-12-2013 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2359217)
I'm assuming when the MHI TT kits start shipping out and getting installed, we'll all have our proof. I personally went EcuTEK myself. We'll see what happens. ^^
That's what I'm waiting for. I'll give it a couple of months. I'm not particularly interested in being a guinea pig for Ecutek on a FI 370.

Dynotronics1 06-12-2013 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 2359196)
:icon18: :iagree:

I will ask this question again. When can we start seeing some actual dyno graphs because it has been a month at least if not longer? I am a number's guys, so I love to see graphs & figures. Please show me some actual solid figures on what this great product has done. I do not mind reading, but I'm not a huge reader. I just keep reading blaah blaah he said/she said nuance.

PROOF & FIGURES DO NOT LIE, but can be deceiving in a way.
I have made this offer before, but here gos again; you pay for your dyno time, before and after, and I'll give you the calibration for free. This way you can make up your own mind, and help the other folks on the board do the same.

Dynotronics1 06-12-2013 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2359106)
I'll ask again. Are the above features available now?
The race rom patch we have right now has VVT and VVEL, as well as simplified advance( which is a HUGE deal), and quite a few RR only data parameters.

Currently not included in this patch is FFS,LC, FLEX,SD tuning, and map switching. Again, it's in que to be added, and everyone will receive it, if they want it.

Alstann 06-12-2013 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2359224)
That's what I'm waiting for. I'll give it a couple of months. I'm not particularly interested in being a guinea pig for Ecutek on a FI 370.
Haha, I hear you.

I'm gonna be taking my car to a respected tuner down here in South FL, most likely HPLogic. I hope they have some knowledge about the system. I'll be contacting them soon when the kit is closer to shipment, so I can have an idea if they are capable of working with the software.

Sam/Mike had me sold on the features, how it can control boost levels as well as future overhead for VVEL tuning. I'm very interested in being a part of that, and moving the platform forward.

puckshaw 06-12-2013 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2359238)
The race rom patch we have right now has VVT and VVEL, as well as simplified advance( which is a HUGE deal), and quite a few RR only data parameters.

Currently not included in this patch is FFS,LC, FLEX,SD tuning, and map switching. Again, it's in que to be added, and everyone will receive it, if they want it.
Thanks for the response :tup:

Alstann 06-12-2013 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2359238)
The race rom patch we have right now has VVT and VVEL, as well as simplified advance( which is a HUGE deal), and quite a few RR only data parameters.

Currently not included in this patch is FFS,LC, FLEX,SD tuning, and map switching. Again, it's in que to be added, and everyone will receive it, if they want it.
This is awesome news - you guys have started work on the VVEL stuff? :D

As long as EcuTEK can perform as well and as safely as Uprev as soon as I get my kit on the car, I'm happy.

Dynotronics1 06-12-2013 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2359245)
This is awesome news - you guys have started work on the VVEL stuff? :D

As long as EcuTEK can perform as well and as safely as Uprev as soon as I get my kit on the car, I'm happy.
having calibrated with pretty much every software that is available, I can tell you that, yes, Ecutek will easily perform as well, if not better than everything else. In addition, it is FAR EASIER to use, and has correct(read as real) tables, with properly interfaced data. The current version we are on has quite a few more tables then anything on the market too.

Hotrodz 06-12-2013 11:30 PM
I have UpRev all read installed on my Z, but I ordered the MHI TT kit with EcuTECH. I will make the decision on which way I go with my tuner. I figure if I'm not comfortable with EcuTECH at the time of my TT install I can stick with UpRev until I am, but for the price of the turn key package I think its worth it regardless. Like someone said earlier, how often do you use more than one map????

V8Killer 06-13-2013 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2360745)
I have UpRev all read installed on my Z, but I ordered the MHI TT kit with EcuTECH. I will make the decision on which way I go with my tuner. I figure if I'm not comfortable with EcuTECH at the time of my TT install I can stick with UpRev until I am, but for the price of the turn key package I think its worth it regardless. Like someone said earlier, how often do you use more than one map????
Depends on the set up. For me it would be crucial as I will want one for my nitrous and one for everyday driving.

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 09:18 AM
There's three things I want to see in action- the boost control, better timing control and the effects of dialing back some cam overlap so I'm not blowing boost out the exhaust valves.

Dynotronics1 06-13-2013 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2361259)
There's three things I want to see in action- the boost control, better timing control and the effects of dialing back some cam overlap so I'm not blowing boost out the exhaust valves.
We can do everything your asking about , with the exception of BC, right now.

Trust me or the timing control, it will make a huge difference on boosted cars like yours

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 09:50 AM
Any guesstimates on when you'll see the boost control? The post form GTM at the top of the page seems like it's coming fairly soon, or at least as soon as their kits ship.

puckshaw 06-13-2013 10:57 AM
Can someone explain how EcuTEK will control boost? Is it adjusting throttle to limit the amount of boost or something?

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2361430)
Can someone explain how EcuTEK will control boost? Is it adjusting throttle to limit the amount of boost or something?
My guess would be based of the MAP sensor, but I'm not sure exactly how they plan on implementing it without some sort of solenoid to manage the wastegates.

Sh0velMan 06-13-2013 11:19 AM
So because they re-write the core software that runs on the ECU, basically just using the ECU as a computer to run their own operating system on, they can use the various inputs and outputs however they want.

So if they want to use one of the outputs that might have been for something not needed any longer (like some sensor or solenoid that can be eliminated, EVAP or some such, I dunno), to control a boost solenoid, they can.

Oh, and there may actually be inputs and outputs that are available on the ECU, but not wired to anything at all in the stock config, so they can make a change to the harness and use those inputs for other purposes, like boost control.

gomer_110 06-13-2013 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2361490)
So because they re-write the core software that runs on the ECU, basically just using the ECU as a computer to run their own operating system on, they can use the various inputs and outputs however they want.

So if they want to use one of the outputs that might have been for something not needed any longer (like some sensor or solenoid that can be eliminated, EVAP or some such, I dunno), to control a boost solenoid, they can.

Oh, and there may actually be inputs and outputs that are available on the ECU, but not wired to anything at all in the stock config, so they can make a change to the harness and use those inputs for other purposes, like boost control.
:iagree:

This is the same thing visconti told me when he was showing me the software.

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2361490)
So because they re-write the core software that runs on the ECU, basically just using the ECU as a computer to run their own operating system on, they can use the various inputs and outputs however they want.

So if they want to use one of the outputs that might have been for something not needed any longer (like some sensor or solenoid that can be eliminated, EVAP or some such, I dunno), to control a boost solenoid, they can.

Oh, and there may actually be inputs and outputs that are available on the ECU, but not wired to anything at all in the stock config, so they can make a change to the harness and use those inputs for other purposes, like boost control.
Sounds about right. I'm waiting to see how well their boost control works before I take the plunge. It would be nice to eliminate the need for a boost controller.

Spikuh 06-13-2013 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2361490)
So because they re-write the core software that runs on the ECU, basically just using the ECU as a computer to run their own operating system on, they can use the various inputs and outputs however they want.

So if they want to use one of the outputs that might have been for something not needed any longer (like some sensor or solenoid that can be eliminated, EVAP or some such, I dunno), to control a boost solenoid, they can.

Oh, and there may actually be inputs and outputs that are available on the ECU, but not wired to anything at all in the stock config, so they can make a change to the harness and use those inputs for other purposes, like boost control.
This is basically my understanding of how it works.

puckshaw 06-13-2013 12:14 PM
It makes perfect sense once you add a solenoid to the equation. I was thinking they were trying to control boost purely with the ECU. Thanks for clearing that up.

gomer_110 06-13-2013 12:51 PM
fwiw, the "retasking" of the ECU's I/O is also how the flex fuel option works. They simply tie in a gas to ethanol ratio sensor mounted in the fuel line to the ECU and make timing and fueling adjustments based on the exact ratio running through the line.

Hotrodz 06-13-2013 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 2361249)
Depends on the set up. For me it would be crucial as I will want one for my nitrous and one for everyday driving.
Very true...yep there is no one size fits all!

Hotrodz 06-13-2013 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2361490)
So because they re-write the core software that runs on the ECU, basically just using the ECU as a computer to run their own operating system on, they can use the various inputs and outputs however they want.

So if they want to use one of the outputs that might have been for something not needed any longer (like some sensor or solenoid that can be eliminated, EVAP or some such, I dunno), to control a boost solenoid, they can.

Oh, and there may actually be inputs and outputs that are available on the ECU, but not wired to anything at all in the stock config, so they can make a change to the harness and use those inputs for other purposes, like boost control.
Will this be as effective as an aftermarket boost controller?

Spikuh 06-13-2013 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2361813)
Will this be as effective as an aftermarket boost controller?
Baring some unsolvable limitation, I don't see why it couldn't be.

Dynotronics1 06-13-2013 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2361813)
Will this be as effective as an aftermarket boost controller?
far more so, simply because of the resolution of the tables.

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 03:55 PM
Will it allow peak boost to be set in each gear? pleasepleaseplease

visconti 06-13-2013 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2362018)
Will it allow peak boost to be set in each gear? pleasepleaseplease
Because it won't be hard coded into the ECU it will be up to the tuner to set this up.

We've done boost control several different ways using custom maps on GTR and BRZ with great success.

Per Gear Boost Control is super Simple with custom maps.. just gotta think outside the box

ECU Based Traction Control stuff is also pretty awesome

Im super pumped that I get to take over a year's worth of custom RaceRom maps work and stick in in the 370Z - this is really going to change EVERYTHING.

John

Chuck33079 06-13-2013 04:06 PM
Well, that seals it for me. I'll be making the switch. I'm just not going to be the test car for FI.

elperuano 06-13-2013 04:17 PM
:icon18:

theDreamer 06-13-2013 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2362047)
Well, that seals it for me. I'll be making the switch. I'm just not going to be the test car for FI.
Let me see if I can twist Ron's arm in Houston.
I am almost ready to make the jump, but want to fix a few things first and install TP before I do a re-tune.

Hotrodz 06-13-2013 07:05 PM
Guys thank for the feedback....I'm all in!

visconti 06-13-2013 09:50 PM
No Problem

Hotrodz 06-13-2013 11:16 PM
Okay, I do have one last question....what about the need for a wide band, is this also programmable through the ECU?

visconti 06-13-2013 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2362586)
Okay, I do have one last question....what about the need for a wide band, is this also programmable through the ECU?
Cars are equipped with wideband sensors and with EcuTek ProECU we can datalog them!

Hope that helps

John

Hotrodz 06-13-2013 11:47 PM
Yep...I would say so! The cost for a wide band, boost controller and labor....well you don't have be good at math to understand the savings!

Chuck33079 06-14-2013 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2362623)
Yep...I would say so! The cost for a wide band, boost controller and labor....well you don't have be good at math to understand the savings!
Exactly. I was considering picking up an electronic boost controller before I got re tuned, but if this takes care of that need I'm saving money I can blow on more car parts.

Mr&Mrs 06-14-2013 07:17 AM
Where is the closest tuner to Tampa FL? I was going to get retuned with uprev on the 18th but I really want this software.

Dynotronics1 06-14-2013 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2362802)
Where is the closest tuner to Tampa FL? I was going to get retuned with uprev on the 18th but I really want this software.
You can contact Visconti, or us, Dynotronics direct and have the hardware and software sent directly to you. Then its a simple matter to get your calibration done


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