WARNING with new UpRev update, you loose your tune!

Juan@Fontana · 03-08-2017, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flashgordon

I am not criticizing the technical improvement of ROM Editor.

At begin I was very happy to know that Uprev finally starts to use degrees instead milliseconds in TA maps (like Ecutek)

I am in complete disagreement to the marketing strategy !!

The upgrade is a good features IF IT DOES NOT DESTROY your work (..and money..)

So, if automatic update proposes an upgrade, it's mandatory that old maps are fully compatible!

In another way, is it not technically possible?
Well Uprev must release the ROMEditor v2.0 and specify that IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE !

My tuner says me that dyno it's necessary.... ....it is not safe to adjust TA using the sentiment....

if I'm allowed to speak my opinion; by looking over datalogs of the previous tune and seeing the ignition advance the car ran at the time you are able to make your old timing table. UpRev did not send a blank timing table all new roms come with a pre-filled timing table that is actually really good. if you are N/A and your tuner does not want to take a datalog of your WOT pulls along with your steady state adjustments and adjust the base map accordingly he is just milking you.

if any of my customers tuned with the older ARC features want to "upgrade" to the new timing feature I'll be able to do it without having to put their car on the dyno by doing what I said above, to be quite honest it'll run exactly the same.

if your car is F.I. I can understand his concern, however it's the same principle. datalogs will show the actual ignition advance and he should be able to re-create the ignition map relatively quickly. (maybe an hour?) paste your MAF, Fuel & Injector settings into the new map and send you on your way, a few datalogs can show any adjustments (if any) that will need to be made.

as far as all the guys doing their own tuning, just look at your old logs. your ignition advance will be shown there, paste all your fuel settings manually into the new rom and be about your way. if you can tune your own car I'm sure you can change the settings over. if my input is not appreciated or welcomed I'll be more than happy to delete this post. I'm just trying to help you guys copy your maps over to the new features and move forward.

flashgordon · 03-09-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan@Fontana

if I'm allowed to speak my opinion; by looking over datalogs of the previous tune and seeing the ignition advance the car ran at the time you are able to make your old timing table.
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Ok, you are saying that the conversion is a simple work, very simple....

Simple at point that Uprev reply that:
"There is no other way around it you must re tune if you want the other 4 maps to have different timing tables."

...and my tuner is milking me...

I don't know, but I have a little doubt about it...

Why Uprev does not promote a conversion service? Even for just 50$??

Juan@Fontana · 03-09-2017, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashgordon

Ok, you are saying that the conversion is a simple work, very simple....

Simple at point that Uprev reply that:
"There is no other way around it you must re tune if you want the other 4 maps to have different timing tables."

...and my tuner is milking me...

I don't know, but I have a little doubt about it...

Why Uprev does not promote a conversion service? Even for just 50$??

If you'd like to call me I'll be happy to give you a more in depth explanation over the phone.

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