going square how did you like it?

newtonova822

Will the square setup help with oversteer?

The front turns in nicely but rear seems to come round pretty fast.
Not really interested in spinning out in traffic. So have been careful.

01206

is front 18*10 +45, rear 18*10 +15 with 275/35/18 all around still a square setup?

wstar

Since our cars have staggered tires (larger in the rear) in stock form, going to a square setup reduces your rear tire width, which if anything is a move in the direction of more oversteer, not less. However, keep in mind how gravity and contact-patch interact. In some ways it's not as much a change as you'd think, and in others it's a very big change in the feel of the car. The hardest part for me to get comfortable with on switching was that the rear end was looser under trail-braking, requiring more careful brake modulation and slight steering corrections at times to prevent an oversteer spin under trail-braking. Once I got used to it, I really liked it though. That little bit of extra looseness makes it easier to get the car rotated just right while trailing.

I don't know if there's an official definition. One of the nice benefits you'd be missing out on, though, is the ability to rotate wheels all over without remounting tires (and only needing spare wheels in one size/offset).

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ValidusVentus

If your saying it comes around fast on corner exit under power than just meter the throttle better or you have some setup issue. 370Zs do not oversteer at the limit from the factory, not even close. Though not nearly as badly as 90% of vehicles on the road probably.
If its on corner entry, might need to look at the way your managing weight transfer with the brake and throttle input.
Yep.

Square refers to running the same wheel width front and rear and kind of assumes your running the same diameter. Offset is just the distance from the actual centerline of the rim to the mounting face in millimeters. Running different offsets will likely prevent your from swapping wheels front to rear easily.

*Didn't know you had replied when I wrote this Wstar, oh well lol.

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newtonova822

Hello,

It seems that at mid corner the back travels faster and into a
decreasing radias half circle cicrle(that is what it feels like). Even though the back is not coming loose.
It feels like what you would think a paper diagram of over steer is. When the rear starts to whip around when the corner pushed to hard and you spin out.

Problem being I am taking slight hot corners on the street not the track.
And it is wanting to fall right into that curl of oversteer. I guess I know the feeling of it happeneing but a bit reserved to push the car to an unwanted spin. But most tight hard corners have a different feeling for the front verses the rear. Front holds firm but rear feels like it will flick out deeper in corner. Most cars I have driven before would tend to loose front grip and slide there first. Not have the back end feel like you when you hammer the throttle out of a corner to fishtail the car.

Guess probably my setup(ride height, preload on coils, etc) I am trying to get better. As to why I also asked about going square next year.