2014 Conti Challenge Round 1 Daytona

Shamu · 01-22-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift

The Z28s are $350k machines built by Pratt and Miller. Their World challenge version is $425k.
They are way overbuilt for both series.
The 7 ltr v8 Camaro makes 500 hp and 475hp in stock streetcar trim. As advertised.
Throw in a KN filter and ECU mapping who knows what it makes. The throttle body is 9mm with an 80mm restrictor which is probably about 25-30 hp and still makes 475 ftlbs of torque.
If you see the cars up close and know rules for the series... They were given very thing they asked for and a lot of it is beyond the spirit of the rules for the series .
When cars in this series are allowed to put in racing pedal boxes and dual master cylinder systems , lexan windows, its beyond the intentions of the series.
Again $350k for a Contincar is insane and all It will do.. Is kill the series.

Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

2011 Nismo#91 · 01-22-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

I agree, so many big manufacturers have bent and twisted the spirit of the rules and made "homologation specials" over the years just to make a given race's requirements it just seems moot to make an issue over it. Simple solution is boost the minimum production figures up from the 500, which many big manufacturers could easily eat if the sales don't match, to a few thousand.

thekinn · 01-22-2014, 02:50 PM

Good luck BJ/Doran! I always look forward to watching you guys race.

With the bankroll of the Camaro teams, seems they would fit into a Tudor class instead of CSCC. I was going to look it up .. with the changes my old memory is lost as to what is in Tudor now... and their website doesn't have an easy place to see all the classes, differences, etc..

Just do us a favor and pass those chumps -

2011 Nismo#91 · 01-22-2014, 02:53 PM

I believe these are the cars in their two classes for this race.
7-3 Grand Sport (GS)
Aston Martin Vantage
Audi S4
BMW M3 E92 2 door
Chevrolet Camaro
Dodge Challenger
Ford Mustang FR500C 5.0 2009
Ford Mustang Boss 302R
Nissan 370Z (3.7)
Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) 2008
Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) Direct Injected
Porsche Cayman S 3.4 L
Subaru WRX STi

7-4 Street Tuner (ST)
Audi TT 3.2 L AWD
Acura TSX L 2.4 L 2008
BMW 128i (3.0)
BMW 328i (E90) 4 Door
BMW 328i (F30) 4 Door
Chevrolet Cobalt SS (2.0) 2008
Ford Focus ST
Honda Accord
Honda Civic Si (2.0) USDM 2011
Honda Civic Si 2DR & 4DR JDM 2011
Honda Civic Si 2.4L
Hyundai Genesis
Kia Forte Koup
Mazda Speed 3
Mazda MX 5 Miata
Mazda 6 (3.0) 2008
Mazda RX8 2011
Mercedes C300 Sport Sedan
Nissan Altima V6
Porsche Boxster (2.7) 987 based 2008
Scion TC 2009
Scion FR-S
Subaru BR-Z

GSS138 · 01-22-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

Or yell at Nissan Motorsports USA. They are next to useless.

01-22-2014, 02:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
thekinn Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 208 Drives: 06 350Z LS MT Rep Power: 6863	Good luck BJ/Doran! I always look forward to watching you guys race. With the bankroll of the Camaro teams, seems they would fit into a Tudor class instead of CSCC. I was going to look it up .. with the changes my old memory is lost as to what is in Tudor now... and their website doesn't have an easy place to see all the classes, differences, etc.. Just do us a favor and pass those chumps - sig11 likes this. __________________ 06 Enthusiast MT - v2

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2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,412 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40571	I believe these are the cars in their two classes for this race. 7-3 Grand Sport (GS) Aston Martin Vantage Audi S4 BMW M3 E92 2 door Chevrolet Camaro Dodge Challenger Ford Mustang FR500C 5.0 2009 Ford Mustang Boss 302R Nissan 370Z (3.7) Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) 2008 Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) Direct Injected Porsche Cayman S 3.4 L Subaru WRX STi 7-4 Street Tuner (ST) Audi TT 3.2 L AWD Acura TSX L 2.4 L 2008 BMW 128i (3.0) BMW 328i (E90) 4 Door BMW 328i (F30) 4 Door Chevrolet Cobalt SS (2.0) 2008 Ford Focus ST Honda Accord Honda Civic Si (2.0) USDM 2011 Honda Civic Si 2DR & 4DR JDM 2011 Honda Civic Si 2.4L Hyundai Genesis Kia Forte Koup Mazda Speed 3 Mazda MX 5 Miata Mazda 6 (3.0) 2008 Mazda RX8 2011 Mercedes C300 Sport Sedan Nissan Altima V6 Porsche Boxster (2.7) 987 based 2008 Scion TC 2009 Scion FR-S Subaru BR-Z