Better track car? 370z or 240SX

m4a1mustang · 07-02-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

If cost is out of the question, then you can make a Geo Metro fast.

In all honesty I think that the Nissan Cube would be the best balanced track car with the right engine swap. The rear door is hinged so you can easily add an LS1 from the curb.

NIZMOZ · 07-02-2009, 01:42 PM

In 2005 the Nissan 240SX driven by John Saurino took first place at the '2005 Sports Car Club of America National Championship;' this gave Nissan its 87th national championship title since 1967.

Nissan Adds to SCCA Runoffs Championships Total with John Saurino's Nissan 240SX GT3 Victory; Nissan Wins Record 87th National Championship Title since 1967 | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET

Guess it can't handle huh?

cossie1600 · 07-02-2009, 03:47 PM

The car has more than $40K invested in it, real good investment and real streetable.....

2001 Nissan 240SX SCCA GT3 lightweight. Nationally competitive car. Excellent condition. Two Rebello full boogie L20b motors, one 0 hours new. 50 MM Mikunis (no restrictors) at 1850 lb with driver, 1685 lb dry. 11.89 1/4 @ 118. Several lap records at Buttonwillow. Two 5 speed dog type race transmissions: Schwitters & Saenz. Speedway Quick Change Mini diff w/Variloc. Carbon body & interior. Latest Neely tube frame chassis. AP brakes. Koni adjustable coilovers. 8 Panasports. Many mechanical and body spares. Car has California DMV kit car registration. I love this car, but my work schedule precludes racing for the rest of the year. So rather than collect rust, it's for sale (way less than just the parts cost): $40,000 everything.
email: rik at zpeedz dot com

Brazilbro · 07-02-2009, 09:38 PM

CAR FEATURE>> S14 TRACK CAR - Speedhunters

Heres a nicely setup s14 track car

edeeZee · 07-03-2009, 10:52 AM

You ever see those people put ads of their highly modified cars that can break 11's in the 1/4, they got dyno sheets that show 650hp+, receipts, blah blah blah....And they want "only" 1/2 of what they claimed to have spent i.e. the trite, "my loss, your gain"-->pipe dream.

Any smart person who worked their butt off to accumulate $30+K in cash for a car, isn't going to let their blood, sweat and tears go down the drain on a used car that has no warranty, is most likely a money pit, and is de facto someone trying to dump their problems onto you.

Spending $28K on a used car so that it can "blow a new 370 out the water" = pyrhic victory

NIZMOZ · 07-03-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

You ever see those people put ads of their highly modified cars that can break 11's in the 1/4, they got dyno sheets that show 650hp+, receipts, blah blah blah....And they want "only" 1/2 of what they claimed to have spent i.e. the trite, "my loss, your gain"-->pipe dream.

Any smart person who worked their butt off to accumulate $30+K in cash for a car, isn't going to let their blood, sweat and tears go down the drain on a used car that has no warranty, is most likely a money pit, and is de facto someone trying to dump their problems onto you.

Spending $28K on a used car so that it can "blow a new 370 out the water" = pyrhic victory

I rather spend $28k on a used car than spend $40k on a new car and then spend all the extra money on it to fix it up as well and have something happen to it, and it's all gone.

NIZMOZ · 07-03-2009, 07:49 PM

Here RCR, little history lesson for ya..

Z33 - MT - R200 - 3.538
Z33 - MT - R200V - 3.538
Z33 - AT - R200V - 3.357
Z32TT - R230V - 3.692
Z32 - R200V - 4.083
G35 - Sedan - AT - R200 - 3.357
G35 - Sedan - MT - R200V - 3.538
G35 - Sedan - AWD - AT - R200 - 3.357
G35 - Coupe - MT - R200V - 3.538
G35 - Coupe - AT - R200 - 3.357
G35 - Coupe - AT - R200V - 3.357
Q45 - G50 - R200V - 3.538
Q45 - FY33 - R200V - 3.692
R32 GTR - RB26DETT - MT - F160 - 4.111 - (Front Final Gear)
R32 GTR - RB26DETT - MT - R200 (Mechanical LSD) - 4.111
S15 - MT - R200H - 3.692
S15 - AT - R200V - 3.916
S14 - KA24DE - 4.083
S14 - SR20DET - MT - R200V - 3.692
S14 - SR20DET - AT - R200V - 3.915
S13 - KA24DE - 4.083 - (Both R200 and R200V

RCZ · 07-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Follow whoever's advice makes more sense Brazilbro.

Thanks for the bad rep NISMOZ.

Way to advice people to tune their own cars too by the way. That makes a lot of sense genius.

NIZMOZ · 07-06-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Follow whoever's advice makes more sense Brazilbro.

Thanks for the bad rep NISMOZ.

Way to advice people to tune their own cars too by the way. That makes a lot of sense genius.

Never left you bad rep my friend.

RCZ · 07-06-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Never left you bad rep my friend.

no? Who was it then? Someone left me bad rep on the FIRST post that I made. If people are going to leave bad rep, have the balls to leave your name with it too please.

NIZMOZ · 07-06-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

no? Who was it then? Someone left me bad rep on the FIRST post that I made. If people are going to leave bad rep, have the balls to leave your name with it too please.

You do have a lot of people on this site that do not like you already. It could have been any of them.

FuszNissan · 07-06-2009, 06:46 AM

if anybod puts 28K in a 240 for a track car is an idiot. Just go flush the money down the toliet. Because that car will be in the shop more than on the track..

RCZ · 07-06-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

if anybod puts 28K in a 240 for a track car is an idiot. Just go flush the money down the toliet. Because that car will be in the shop more than on the track..

Thats what I've been trying to say....

NIZMOZ · 07-06-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

Thats what I've been trying to say....

28k is obviously a way high number. It would not cost over 10k to make a 240 kill anything on the track pretty much.

cossie1600 · 07-06-2009, 12:32 PM

With your long track experience, could you tell me what amateur series/class actually allow 240sx with swaps in it that are under 10K or even 15K? I have never seen or heard of one, heck I still haven't seen a competitive 240sx anywhere with the exception of a few here and there. With an amateur budget, how does a turbocharged engine survive a race session?

Also by the time you finish swapping engine/drivetrain/brakes/suspension, don't you want to rethink your strategy and perhaps think about using a new platform. I guess this is the same reason why people race Honda shoeboxes.

07-02-2009, 01:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	In 2005 the Nissan 240SX driven by John Saurino took first place at the '2005 Sports Car Club of America National Championship;' this gave Nissan its 87th national championship title since 1967. Nissan Adds to SCCA Runoffs Championships Total with John Saurino's Nissan 240SX GT3 Victory; Nissan Wins Record 87th National Championship Title since 1967 \| Business Wire \| Find Articles at BNET Guess it can't handle huh? __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

07-03-2009, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Here RCR, little history lesson for ya.. Z33 - MT - R200 - 3.538 Z33 - MT - R200V - 3.538 Z33 - AT - R200V - 3.357 Z32TT - R230V - 3.692 Z32 - R200V - 4.083 G35 - Sedan - AT - R200 - 3.357 G35 - Sedan - MT - R200V - 3.538 G35 - Sedan - AWD - AT - R200 - 3.357 G35 - Coupe - MT - R200V - 3.538 G35 - Coupe - AT - R200 - 3.357 G35 - Coupe - AT - R200V - 3.357 Q45 - G50 - R200V - 3.538 Q45 - FY33 - R200V - 3.692 R32 GTR - RB26DETT - MT - F160 - 4.111 - (Front Final Gear) R32 GTR - RB26DETT - MT - R200 (Mechanical LSD) - 4.111 S15 - MT - R200H - 3.692 S15 - AT - R200V - 3.916 S14 - KA24DE - 4.083 S14 - SR20DET - MT - R200V - 3.692 S14 - SR20DET - AT - R200V - 3.915 S13 - KA24DE - 4.083 - (Both R200 and R200V __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

07-06-2009, 06:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	if anybod puts 28K in a 240 for a track car is an idiot. Just go flush the money down the toliet. Because that car will be in the shop more than on the track.. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	The car has more than $40K invested in it, real good investment and real streetable..... 2001 Nissan 240SX SCCA GT3 lightweight. Nationally competitive car. Excellent condition. Two Rebello full boogie L20b motors, one 0 hours new. 50 MM Mikunis (no restrictors) at 1850 lb with driver, 1685 lb dry. 11.89 1/4 @ 118. Several lap records at Buttonwillow. Two 5 speed dog type race transmissions: Schwitters & Saenz. Speedway Quick Change Mini diff w/Variloc. Carbon body & interior. Latest Neely tube frame chassis. AP brakes. Koni adjustable coilovers. 8 Panasports. Many mechanical and body spares. Car has California DMV kit car registration. I love this car, but my work schedule precludes racing for the rest of the year. So rather than collect rust, it's for sale (way less than just the parts cost): $40,000 everything. email: rik at zpeedz dot com

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edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 267	You ever see those people put ads of their highly modified cars that can break 11's in the 1/4, they got dyno sheets that show 650hp+, receipts, blah blah blah....And they want "only" 1/2 of what they claimed to have spent i.e. the trite, "my loss, your gain"-->pipe dream. Any smart person who worked their butt off to accumulate $30+K in cash for a car, isn't going to let their blood, sweat and tears go down the drain on a used car that has no warranty, is most likely a money pit, and is de facto someone trying to dump their problems onto you. Spending $28K on a used car so that it can "blow a new 370 out the water" = pyrhic victory

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RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Follow whoever's advice makes more sense Brazilbro. Thanks for the bad rep NISMOZ. Way to advice people to tune their own cars too by the way. That makes a lot of sense genius.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	With your long track experience, could you tell me what amateur series/class actually allow 240sx with swaps in it that are under 10K or even 15K? I have never seen or heard of one, heck I still haven't seen a competitive 240sx anywhere with the exception of a few here and there. With an amateur budget, how does a turbocharged engine survive a race session? Also by the time you finish swapping engine/drivetrain/brakes/suspension, don't you want to rethink your strategy and perhaps think about using a new platform. I guess this is the same reason why people race Honda shoeboxes.