Is the Z faster then it's given credit for?

ChrisSlicks · 12-12-2011, 09:20 AM

The Z is not a power car that is for sure, but I like it because it is easy to drive fast on track and is very communicative. In the last couple of outings with it I was bested by only a handful of full on race cars. Of course the last couple of tracks happened to be tracks that favored handling as opposed to full on power.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The Z is not a power car that is for sure, but I like it because it is easy to drive fast on track and is very communicative. In the last couple of outings with it I was bested by only a handful of full on race cars. Of course the last couple of tracks happened to be tracks that favored handling as opposed to full on power.

Don't underestimate the fact that you also drive like a boss. You're giving the car too much credit.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

There is alot of vids on youtube of Z's winning. But you cant really take those vids as a way to gauge how fast the car. If you have a 600hp car it does not mean your gonna be fast. The Z is pretty quick for what it is.

On YouTube I get the impression that the 370z is equal to an ls1 fbody. A tiny fraction slower than an ls3 fbody, and transmission dependant vs. A c5. Very impressive imo.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-12-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

On YouTube I get the impression that the 370z is equal to an ls1 fbody. A tiny fraction slower than an ls3 fbody, and transmission dependant vs. A c5. Very impressive imo.

I think we need a youtube power board like how Top Gear has their power lap times

vividracing · 12-12-2011, 12:46 PM

The 370Z runs a low 13 second 1/4 mile with ease, so it's definitely quick. "Fast" is all relative, though.

The 370Z is a great combination/balance of everything that's important in a sports car, though. Straight line speed, cornering ability, power delivery, and styling.

thetaste · 12-12-2011, 01:15 PM

Before I purchased mine, I didn't think it would be as fast as it is.
So....yeah.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

The 370Z runs a low 13 second 1/4 mile with ease, so it's definitely quick. "Fast" is all relative, though.

The 370Z is a great combination/balance of everything that's important in a sports car, though. Straight line speed, cornering ability, power delivery, and styling.

With ease? Then why are so many drivers stuck in the mid-high 13s?

It's a 13 second car for sure. 13 second drivers? I dunno about that.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-12-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

With ease? Then why are so many drivers stuck in the mid-high 13s?

It's a 13 second car for sure. 13 second drivers? I dunno about that.

Steve got his Z down the 1/4 mile in 5.0 seconds so he could trade it in for a 5.0 really quickly, lol.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Steve got his Z down the 1/4 mile in 5.0 seconds so he could trade it in for a 5.0 really quickly, lol.

Jeffblue · 12-12-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Still, the powerband is very useful. Much moreso than peak dyno numbers suggest.

I think the opposite. i found the powerband very frustrating. it has no balls below 4k rpm. its dyno numbers suggest more power than it actually feels like it has.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I think the opposite. i found the powerband very frustrating. it has no balls below 4k rpm. its dyno numbers suggest more power than it actually feels like it has.

Data suggests otherwise. The 5-60 street start test times are identical to the c5 Corvette with the ls1. Definitely not a slouch in the lower rpm band. Driving an ls1 car and 370z, they felt very similar to me.

Jeffblue · 12-12-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Data suggests otherwise. The 5-60 street start test times are identical to the c5 Corvette with the ls1. Definitely not a slouch in the lower rpm band. Driving an ls1 car and 370z, they felt very similar to me.

i dont care about data. step on the gas in 2nd gear at 10mph and its dead for almost 2 seconds before you feel any pull. that's what i'm basing my opinion on. when you step on the gas and the car doesn't go fast it feels slow.

my 335 has less horsepower and more torque and has noticeably less top end than the 370z. i believe it has 300/295 vs the 370z 332/270. as far as usable power band, when it comes to normal driving, or even spirited driving, you are spending most of your time between 2k and 4500 rpm, and if there isn't any kick in a car until 4k then that doesn't feel very fast.

obviously every car as a way to eek out the power, but theres something very nice about being able to punch a car and have it go without having to downshift 2 gears. On the 370z if you are in 6th gear cruising on the highway you've got to shift into 3rd if you want some real kick. i always felt like i was hurting the 370z when i drove it hard because you have to rev the engine so high to get some nice power out of it.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i dont care about data. step on the gas in 2nd gear at 10mph and its dead for almost 2 seconds before you feel any pull. that's what i'm basing my opinion on. when you step on the gas and the car doesn't go fast it feels slow.

my 335 has less horsepower and more torque and has noticeably less top end than the 370z. i believe it has 300/295 vs the 370z 332/270. as far as usable power band, when it comes to normal driving, or even spirited driving, you are spending most of your time between 2k and 4500 rpm, and if there isn't any kick in a car until 4k then that doesn't feel very fast.

obviously every car as a way to eek out the power, but theres something very nice about being able to punch a car and have it go without having to downshift 2 gears. On the 370z if you are in 6th gear cruising on the highway you've got to shift into 3rd if you want some real kick. i always felt like i was hurting the 370z when i drove it hard because you have to rev the engine so high to get some nice power out of it.

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b1adesofcha0s · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

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Jeffblue · 12-12-2011, 03:27 PM

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ok well, to keep things technical, DATA Wise lets look at the following:

2000 ls1 corvette:

2010 370z:

looking at the low end.
3krpm:
vette: 200hp/350tq
370z: 125hp/225tq

3.5krpm
vette: 238hp/360tq
370z: 150hp/220tq

4krpm
vette: 280hp/370tq
370z: 168hp/220tq

4.5krpm
vette: 330hp/375tq
370z: 190hp/220tq

now what were you saying about the powerband being similar?

12-12-2011, 09:20 AM	#16 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	The Z is not a power car that is for sure, but I like it because it is easy to drive fast on track and is very communicative. In the last couple of outings with it I was bested by only a handful of full on race cars. Of course the last couple of tracks happened to be tracks that favored handling as opposed to full on power. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

12-12-2011, 12:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 38	The 370Z runs a low 13 second 1/4 mile with ease, so it's definitely quick. "Fast" is all relative, though. The 370Z is a great combination/balance of everything that's important in a sports car, though. Straight line speed, cornering ability, power delivery, and styling. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

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thetaste Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Soddy Daisy Posts: 236 Drives: GTR Rep Power: 13	Before I purchased mine, I didn't think it would be as fast as it is. So....yeah.