335i

zchristopher · 10-02-2011, 04:12 AM

has anyone raced a 335i? i came across one today and he kept slowing down and speeding up so i accellerated with him and we seemed exactly the same.
the bmw had dealer plates, so it was new

edconline · 10-02-2011, 04:34 AM

^ He kept slowing down and speeding up? You mean for the corners on the track you guys were at right? Then you guys accelerated on the straight?

Haven't met one at the track yet myself.

zchristopher · 10-02-2011, 05:47 AM

no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

Methodical4u · 10-03-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zchristopher

no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

number 1. The forum doesn't want stories of street racing on here.... go to a track
number 2. Street racing is completely stupid and proves nothing ... go to a track
number 3. If you research you will see that they are pretty well equal stock for stock... but with just a tune you've got a run for your money with even full mods on an NA Z .... AT A TRACK.

Rickey89 · 10-03-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zchristopher

no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells

JC671 · 10-03-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89

i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells

I caught that too then I saw his next comment

Waiz · 10-03-2011, 06:43 PM

Either keep it on the track or keep it on GT-5...

Street racing no es bueno!

Rone · 10-03-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline

^ He kept slowing down and speeding up? You mean for the corners on the track you guys were at right? Then you guys accelerated on the straight?

Haven't met one at the track yet myself.

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Originally Posted by zchristopher

no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

^^^^^ Fu*king EPIC!!!! ROFLMFAO!

XwChriswX · 10-03-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89

i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells

This

Street Racing or "Driving door to door progressively accelerating" is not condoned by Forum Rules, you might want to re-word your post or your thread will be locked.

Jeffblue · 10-03-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

number 1. The forum doesn't want stories of street racing on here.... go to a track
number 2. Street racing is completely stupid and proves nothing ... go to a track
number 3. If you research you will see that they are pretty well equal stock for stock... but with just a tune you've got a run for your money with even full mods on an NA Z .... AT A TRACK.

1. I agree
2. I agree
3. I agree. Except with a tune a 335 will easily take a 370z even with full bolt ons

370z stock=290whp/230tq
370z+$1,500=310whp
370z+$3,000=320 whp/260tq

335i stock=240whp/273tq
335i+$800=313whp/373tq
335i+$2,000=363whp/424tq

The power really is in a different place though. the 370z you really need the revs high to get power. the 335 its very torquey down low. the 370z definitely has a little more top end.

phunk · 10-03-2011, 10:22 PM

when i had test pipes only, i was dead even with a friends 335i for a couple 40-80 or so pulls. he had just a tune i think, maybe a muffler too i cant remember. we traded cars for a min, the bmw definitely had it on the torque but i do think i recall it not being instant torque like NA power, of course though, its a turbo engine.

Jeffblue · 10-04-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

when i had test pipes only, i was dead even with a friends 335i for a couple 40-80 or so pulls. he had just a tune i think, maybe a muffler too i cant remember. we traded cars for a min, the bmw definitely had it on the torque but i do think i recall it not being instant torque like NA power, of course though, its a turbo engine.

I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, but the power in the 335 comes on way faster than the power in the 370z. The fact that it is a turbo car is irrelevant. The turbos are very small in the car (like the size of a donut) and they have instant boost. In fact in the n54 motor, they had to take special care in tuning the car to keep the wastegates shut for slightly longer, since the turbos are so small they would actually just be in full boost all the time.

the muffler adds 0hp/tq on the 335. Sounds about right that you'd pull on him 40-80 stock, but i doubt it if he had a tune. Keep in mind, there are other factors besides hp/tq. there is also weight of cars, gearing etc that will determine which car is faster.

jaxxx · 10-04-2011, 08:32 AM

My 335i ran 275 whp / 290 stock....., now runs 380/400 jb4, DP, DCI, catback.

Red__Zed · 10-04-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, .

Sorry fanboi, banhammer time.

Please consult rules 4&8...if you have time before your motor blows up

phunk · 10-04-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, but the power in the 335 comes on way faster than the power in the 370z. The fact that it is a turbo car is irrelevant. The turbos are very small in the car (like the size of a donut) and they have instant boost. In fact in the n54 motor, they had to take special care in tuning the car to keep the wastegates shut for slightly longer, since the turbos are so small they would actually just be in full boost all the time.

its ok my friend. i actually stated that the BMW "had it on the torque", what i meant by that is that the power came on harder/sooner. I also stated that there is a momentary lag, but that is with any turbo car. NA cars have no boost transition, the moment you are full throttle they are at 100% of their power at the given RPM. This is not true of any turbo engine. Smaller builds power faster, yes, but there is never such thing as "instant" boost with a turbo motor.

You have your wastegate facts backwords BTW... if you were trying to stay out of boost, you would keep the wastegates OPEN rather than shut.

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

the muffler adds 0hp/tq on the 335. Sounds about right that you'd pull on him 40-80 stock, but i doubt it if he had a tune. Keep in mind, there are other factors besides hp/tq. there is also weight of cars, gearing etc that will determine which car is faster.

Does that sound about right? Because I never said that. And really, are you sure that other factors besides HP/TQ effect a cars acceleration???? who knew?!?!

The thread was about 335i versus 370z... I never quoted HP, I never said I pulled him. I said a friends 335i with a tune and my 370z with test pipes did several pulls and were dead even. tune confirmed. the story ends there. dont be in such a rage to defend your bmw, and maybe you will read things as they were stated.

10-02-2011, 04:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
zchristopher Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: calabasas, ca Posts: 66 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	335i has anyone raced a 335i? i came across one today and he kept slowing down and speeding up so i accellerated with him and we seemed exactly the same. the bmw had dealer plates, so it was new

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edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	^ He kept slowing down and speeding up? You mean for the corners on the track you guys were at right? Then you guys accelerated on the straight? Haven't met one at the track yet myself. __________________ View Journal Audio Build

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Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,257 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	Either keep it on the track or keep it on GT-5... Street racing no es bueno! Last edited by Waiz; 10-03-2011 at 06:45 PM.

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phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	when i had test pipes only, i was dead even with a friends 335i for a couple 40-80 or so pulls. he had just a tune i think, maybe a muffler too i cant remember. we traded cars for a min, the bmw definitely had it on the torque but i do think i recall it not being instant torque like NA power, of course though, its a turbo engine. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 10-03-2011 at 10:26 PM.

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10-02-2011, 05:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
zchristopher Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: calabasas, ca Posts: 66 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

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