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zchristopher 10-02-2011 04:12 AM

335i
 
has anyone raced a 335i? i came across one today and he kept slowing down and speeding up so i accellerated with him and we seemed exactly the same.
the bmw had dealer plates, so it was new

edconline 10-02-2011 04:34 AM

^ He kept slowing down and speeding up? You mean for the corners on the track you guys were at right? Then you guys accelerated on the straight?

Haven't met one at the track yet myself.

zchristopher 10-02-2011 05:47 AM

no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

Methodical4u 10-03-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zchristopher (Post 1340241)
no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

number 1. The forum doesn't want stories of street racing on here.... go to a track
number 2. Street racing is completely stupid and proves nothing ... go to a track
number 3. If you research you will see that they are pretty well equal stock for stock... but with just a tune you've got a run for your money with even full mods on an NA Z .... AT A TRACK.

Rickey89 10-03-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zchristopher (Post 1340241)
no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells:ughdance:

JC671 10-03-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89 (Post 1341649)
i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells:ughdance:

I caught that too then I saw his next comment :facepalm:

Waiz 10-03-2011 06:43 PM

Either keep it on the track or keep it on GT-5...

Street racing no es bueno!

Rone 10-03-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 1340233)
^ He kept slowing down and speeding up? You mean for the corners on the track you guys were at right? Then you guys accelerated on the straight?

Haven't met one at the track yet myself.

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Originally Posted by zchristopher (Post 1340241)
no we were just driving on the streets. i timmed him when he took off, he was in front of me

^^^^^ Fu*king EPIC!!!! ROFLMFAO!

XwChriswX 10-03-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89 (Post 1341649)
i lol'd, edconline was trying to give you an out and you missed it, oh wells:ughdance:

This :icon18:



Street Racing or "Driving door to door progressively accelerating" is not condoned by Forum Rules, you might want to re-word your post or your thread will be locked. :ugh2:

Jeffblue 10-03-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1341623)
number 1. The forum doesn't want stories of street racing on here.... go to a track
number 2. Street racing is completely stupid and proves nothing ... go to a track
number 3. If you research you will see that they are pretty well equal stock for stock... but with just a tune you've got a run for your money with even full mods on an NA Z .... AT A TRACK.

1. I agree
2. I agree
3. I agree. Except with a tune a 335 will easily take a 370z even with full bolt ons
  • 370z stock=290whp/230tq
    370z+$1,500=310whp
    370z+$3,000=320 whp/260tq

    335i stock=240whp/273tq
    335i+$800=313whp/373tq
    335i+$2,000=363whp/424tq

The power really is in a different place though. the 370z you really need the revs high to get power. the 335 its very torquey down low. the 370z definitely has a little more top end.

phunk 10-03-2011 10:22 PM

when i had test pipes only, i was dead even with a friends 335i for a couple 40-80 or so pulls. he had just a tune i think, maybe a muffler too i cant remember. we traded cars for a min, the bmw definitely had it on the torque but i do think i recall it not being instant torque like NA power, of course though, its a turbo engine.

Jeffblue 10-04-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1342702)
when i had test pipes only, i was dead even with a friends 335i for a couple 40-80 or so pulls. he had just a tune i think, maybe a muffler too i cant remember. we traded cars for a min, the bmw definitely had it on the torque but i do think i recall it not being instant torque like NA power, of course though, its a turbo engine.

I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, but the power in the 335 comes on way faster than the power in the 370z. The fact that it is a turbo car is irrelevant. The turbos are very small in the car (like the size of a donut) and they have instant boost. In fact in the n54 motor, they had to take special care in tuning the car to keep the wastegates shut for slightly longer, since the turbos are so small they would actually just be in full boost all the time.

the muffler adds 0hp/tq on the 335. Sounds about right that you'd pull on him 40-80 stock, but i doubt it if he had a tune. Keep in mind, there are other factors besides hp/tq. there is also weight of cars, gearing etc that will determine which car is faster.

jaxxx 10-04-2011 08:32 AM

My 335i ran 275 whp / 290 stock....., now runs 380/400 jb4, DP, DCI, catback.

Red__Zed 10-04-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1343022)
I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, .

Sorry fanboi, banhammer time.

Please consult rules 4&8...if you have time before your motor blows up:icon23:

phunk 10-04-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1343022)
I dont mean to come off like a fanboy because i sold my 370z for a 335, but the power in the 335 comes on way faster than the power in the 370z. The fact that it is a turbo car is irrelevant. The turbos are very small in the car (like the size of a donut) and they have instant boost. In fact in the n54 motor, they had to take special care in tuning the car to keep the wastegates shut for slightly longer, since the turbos are so small they would actually just be in full boost all the time.

:nutswinger: its ok my friend. i actually stated that the BMW "had it on the torque", what i meant by that is that the power came on harder/sooner. I also stated that there is a momentary lag, but that is with any turbo car. NA cars have no boost transition, the moment you are full throttle they are at 100% of their power at the given RPM. This is not true of any turbo engine. Smaller builds power faster, yes, but there is never such thing as "instant" boost with a turbo motor.

You have your wastegate facts backwords BTW... if you were trying to stay out of boost, you would keep the wastegates OPEN rather than shut.

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1343022)
the muffler adds 0hp/tq on the 335. Sounds about right that you'd pull on him 40-80 stock, but i doubt it if he had a tune. Keep in mind, there are other factors besides hp/tq. there is also weight of cars, gearing etc that will determine which car is faster.

Does that sound about right? Because I never said that. And really, are you sure that other factors besides HP/TQ effect a cars acceleration???? who knew?!?! :rolleyes:

The thread was about 335i versus 370z... I never quoted HP, I never said I pulled him. I said a friends 335i with a tune and my 370z with test pipes did several pulls and were dead even. tune confirmed. the story ends there. dont be in such a rage to defend your bmw, and maybe you will read things as they were stated.


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