First Hyperdrive at Summit Point

ZCarMan · 08-22-2010, 09:31 AM

I just wanted to share my experience yesterday at Summit Point Raceway, WV. I had the chance to take my 370Z and participate in a classroom setting for some basic introduction to track driving and then along with a great instructor spend 25 of some of the most exciting minutes driving my Z!

Before I went to the track I invested in an oil cooler (19 row Setrab) with a Mocal thermoplate sandwhich adapter which is a must in my opinion in order to avoid oil temperature problems which result in limp mode setting in after after a few laps. The temperature at 1PM when I went onto the track was 92F. I also invested in a set of Hawk HPS brakepads and Motul racing brake fluid to ensure my stopping power was not going to be impacted by the heavy braking I would be using in the turns at Summit Point. Those two mods set me up for a great driving experience.

None of the group of 15 who were entered into the Hyperdrive had driven on the track before. Among the group were a couple of GTRs, a 5.0 Mustang, Porsche Cayman, Volkswagon GTI, etc. As we started out of the pit onto the track we accelerated and before I knew it I was coming up on turn one and the first time I missed the mark and didn't brake in time and overshot my turn in and at that speed it was obvious because I wound up way off line as I accelerated out and trying to line up for turn two which was a left turn followed by a right climbing turn which I managed much better. It was amazing to me the amount of braking you need to use because when you've only driven on the street you have no comparison. It took me a few laps to realize that I needed to BRAKE HARD into a turn and then feeling the way the wheel feels as you unwind. I've got so much to learn and need to repeat this about a million times to get it right. Top speed for me coming down the straight was 120mph but honestly I was not looking at the speedometer. I was trying to keep my eyes up looking ahead and not down right in front of me. Trying to get the shifting right at the same time braking hard and finding the line in to the turn takes alot of concentration but I know when I have some more experience it will be more fluid.

I must have been pased by about half a dozen cars but I did manage to get to pass one car so that was fun. One thing that I was disappointed about was that I had my camera all set for recording and started it just before we headed onto the track. However, I forgot to delete all the stuff I already had on there and it was full so all I got was about ten seconds of me sitting in the car with the instructor waiting to head onto the track. Lesson learned!

In summary, I'd recommend this to anyone who really wants to drive their Z in the manner it was built for and to also do it in a safe manner. I am now going back to Virginia Intl Raceway in October to begin my HPDE series of classes and driving!

Here is a link to some pics taken yesterday at Summit Point.

Nissan 370Z Forum - ZCarMan's Album: Summit Point Raceway August 21st 2010

370Zsteve · 08-22-2010, 09:35 AM

Great post! +1 rep

Your comments on braking are probably the best example of why track time is a great tool for safer driving on the street!

m4a1mustang · 08-22-2010, 09:38 AM

Awesome, Jon! Thanks for sharing.

We expect to hear more at the next Z's & Coffee.

ZCarMan · 08-22-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Great post! +1 rep

Your comments on braking are probably the best example of why track time is a great tool for safer driving on the street!

Thanks, it was great fun and at the same time humbling to find out how much one doesn't really don't know about driving a high performance car until you are on the track.

ZCarMan · 08-22-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Awesome, Jon! Thanks for sharing.

We expect to hear more at the next Z's & Coffee.

Sure thing!

w0ady · 08-22-2010, 04:01 PM

sounds fun! its definitely a wake up call taking your car to the track for the first time. i know im hooked lol.

ResIpsa · 08-23-2010, 12:47 PM

It was great seeing you there. Now try to get a couple more Z's to the next event and I won't have to hang out with the S2000 guys!

Keep in mind that as you start getting more experience and faster you will probably start experiencing some brake issues (and maybe the dreaded ice mode which I have concluded is brake fluid boiling). Especially at VIR wher the back straight is much longer. You should really consider installing some brake cooling ducts.

This weekend I was out braking every other car in HPDE 2 in, as you know, damn hot weather! Zero brake fade and not even a hint of ice mode. Although, I did blow out my driver side inner fender liner. I should have taken the time to remount and recenter my driver side duct before going to the track. And I probably should have re-installed all the push clips and bolts after my last oil change. Oops...

Luckily, one of the S2000 guys works at a shop at the track and he let me use his lift to do some track side repairs. Nothing that a few zip ties could not fix. Now you see why I bring so many tools to every track day.

Nissan 370Z Forum - ResIpsa's Album: ResIpsa - Picture

Here is the link to my brake duct DIY.

DIY - Brake Cooling Ducts

03threefiftyz · 08-24-2010, 05:51 PM

I was hoping to make it up to Summit, but stayed with auto-x for the weekend.

P.S. Mike, I made up 87 points on you this weekend at Winchester

.

This is Mike with the Black 350.

m4a1mustang · 08-24-2010, 06:08 PM

Jon, I will be joining you for future HPDEs but it will be in the Mustang!

ZCarMan · 08-24-2010, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

It was great seeing you there. Now try to get a couple more Z's to the next event and I won't have to hang out with the S2000 guys!

Keep in mind that as you start getting more experience and faster you will probably start experiencing some brake issues (and maybe the dreaded ice mode which I have concluded is brake fluid boiling). Especially at VIR wher the back straight is much longer. You should really consider installing some brake cooling ducts.

This weekend I was out braking every other car in HPDE 2 in, as you know, damn hot weather! Zero brake fade and not even a hint of ice mode. Although, I did blow out my driver side inner fender liner. I should have taken the time to remount and recenter my driver side duct before going to the track. And I probably should have re-installed all the push clips and bolts after my last oil change. Oops...

Luckily, one of the S2000 guys works at a shop at the track and he let me use his lift to do some track side repairs. Nothing that a few zip ties could not fix. Now you see why I bring so many tools to every track day.

Nissan 370Z Forum - ResIpsa's Album: ResIpsa - Picture

Here is the link to my brake duct DIY.

DIY - Brake Cooling Ducts

Thanks again for sharing your insights. I will have to look at how I'm going to address the brake cooling. I will be trying to get as many of my fellow 370Z bros out to the track as well! Hope to see you at VIR in October!

ZCarMan · 08-24-2010, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Jon, I will be joining you for future HPDEs but it will be in the Mustang!

I look forward to it Steve!

ResIpsa · 08-25-2010, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz

I was hoping to make it up to Summit, but stayed with auto-x for the weekend.

P.S. Mike, I made up 87 points on you this weekend at Winchester

.

This is Mike with the Black 350.

Bastard!

m4a1mustang · 08-25-2010, 11:34 AM

Jon I found the 5.0 guy on another forum. He pretty much echoed your sentiments on his first experience.

ZCarMan · 08-30-2010, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Jon I found the 5.0 guy on another forum. He pretty much echoed your sentiments on his first experience.

The guys name is Scott. He said he would be at VIR in October.

08-22-2010, 09:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 27	First Hyperdrive at Summit Point I just wanted to share my experience yesterday at Summit Point Raceway, WV. I had the chance to take my 370Z and participate in a classroom setting for some basic introduction to track driving and then along with a great instructor spend 25 of some of the most exciting minutes driving my Z! Before I went to the track I invested in an oil cooler (19 row Setrab) with a Mocal thermoplate sandwhich adapter which is a must in my opinion in order to avoid oil temperature problems which result in limp mode setting in after after a few laps. The temperature at 1PM when I went onto the track was 92F. I also invested in a set of Hawk HPS brakepads and Motul racing brake fluid to ensure my stopping power was not going to be impacted by the heavy braking I would be using in the turns at Summit Point. Those two mods set me up for a great driving experience. None of the group of 15 who were entered into the Hyperdrive had driven on the track before. Among the group were a couple of GTRs, a 5.0 Mustang, Porsche Cayman, Volkswagon GTI, etc. As we started out of the pit onto the track we accelerated and before I knew it I was coming up on turn one and the first time I missed the mark and didn't brake in time and overshot my turn in and at that speed it was obvious because I wound up way off line as I accelerated out and trying to line up for turn two which was a left turn followed by a right climbing turn which I managed much better. It was amazing to me the amount of braking you need to use because when you've only driven on the street you have no comparison. It took me a few laps to realize that I needed to BRAKE HARD into a turn and then feeling the way the wheel feels as you unwind. I've got so much to learn and need to repeat this about a million times to get it right. Top speed for me coming down the straight was 120mph but honestly I was not looking at the speedometer. I was trying to keep my eyes up looking ahead and not down right in front of me. Trying to get the shifting right at the same time braking hard and finding the line in to the turn takes alot of concentration but I know when I have some more experience it will be more fluid. I must have been pased by about half a dozen cars but I did manage to get to pass one car so that was fun. One thing that I was disappointed about was that I had my camera all set for recording and started it just before we headed onto the track. However, I forgot to delete all the stuff I already had on there and it was full so all I got was about ten seconds of me sitting in the car with the instructor waiting to head onto the track. Lesson learned! In summary, I'd recommend this to anyone who really wants to drive their Z in the manner it was built for and to also do it in a safe manner. I am now going back to Virginia Intl Raceway in October to begin my HPDE series of classes and driving! Here is a link to some pics taken yesterday at Summit Point. Nissan 370Z Forum - ZCarMan's Album: Summit Point Raceway August 21st 2010 __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes Last edited by ZCarMan; 12-13-2010 at 07:22 AM.

08-22-2010, 09:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Great post! +1 rep Your comments on braking are probably the best example of why track time is a great tool for safer driving on the street! __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS. Last edited by 370Zsteve; 08-22-2010 at 09:38 AM.

08-22-2010, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Awesome, Jon! Thanks for sharing. We expect to hear more at the next Z's & Coffee. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

08-22-2010, 04:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
w0ady Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: jacksonville, fl Posts: 191 Drives: 2009 g37 ab 7at Rep Power: 16	sounds fun! its definitely a wake up call taking your car to the track for the first time. i know im hooked lol. __________________ sold: 09 athens 7at g37s coupe 12/22/08; 05 athens 5at g35 coupe r.i.p. 5/13/05-10/29/08

08-23-2010, 12:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 339	It was great seeing you there. Now try to get a couple more Z's to the next event and I won't have to hang out with the S2000 guys! Keep in mind that as you start getting more experience and faster you will probably start experiencing some brake issues (and maybe the dreaded ice mode which I have concluded is brake fluid boiling). Especially at VIR wher the back straight is much longer. You should really consider installing some brake cooling ducts. This weekend I was out braking every other car in HPDE 2 in, as you know, damn hot weather! Zero brake fade and not even a hint of ice mode. Although, I did blow out my driver side inner fender liner. I should have taken the time to remount and recenter my driver side duct before going to the track. And I probably should have re-installed all the push clips and bolts after my last oil change. Oops... Luckily, one of the S2000 guys works at a shop at the track and he let me use his lift to do some track side repairs. Nothing that a few zip ties could not fix. Now you see why I bring so many tools to every track day. Nissan 370Z Forum - ResIpsa's Album: ResIpsa - Picture Here is the link to my brake duct DIY. DIY - Brake Cooling Ducts __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

08-24-2010, 05:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 17	I was hoping to make it up to Summit, but stayed with auto-x for the weekend. P.S. Mike, I made up 87 points on you this weekend at Winchester . This is Mike with the Black 350.

08-24-2010, 06:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Jon, I *will* be joining you for future HPDEs but it will be in the Mustang! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

08-25-2010, 11:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Jon I found the 5.0 guy on another forum. He pretty much echoed your sentiments on his first experience. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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