Fortune Auto 510

Rusty · 05-14-2021, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy

lol so why is it not applicable on the 370z? is it because of the way our suspension is set up?

The Z is not experiencing the same forces as my truck offroad. I got around 16" of suspension travel. The shaft diameter is close to 3/4".

justin_boy · 05-14-2021, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

The Z is not experiencing the same forces as my truck offroad. I got around 16" of suspension travel. The shaft diameter is close to 3/4".

Gotcha! Thank you for taking the time and explaining it to me like I’m
6. Okay so now I have peace of mind. I’ll stick with the aluminum damper body. Saves a pound each corner of unsprung weight and dissipates heat much quicker which apparently is important in double wishbone suspension

justin_boy · 05-17-2021, 02:49 AM

been thinking about changing the order to 18k front 16k rear, but im worried transitioning will be compromised. what do you guys think about that

Hotrodz · 05-17-2021, 12:32 PM

You need to consider that auto cross and circuit setups are different. Springs are easy items to change out. You have no aero. You also need to consider the track surfaces you run on. Bumpy and uneven surface are unforgiving if you spung too stiff. Smooth surfaces you can go stiffer. Do you like running curbs or not. Little things to consider. I would start were the majority do and then make adjustments as you get better and have a better idea of what might work best for you.

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justin_boy · 05-17-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You need to consider that auto cross and circuit setups are different. Springs are easy items to change out. You have no aero. You also need to consider the track surfaces you run on. Bumpy and uneven surface are unforgiving if you spung too stiff. Smooth surfaces you can go stiffer. Do you like running curbs or not. Little things to consider. I would start were the majority do and then make adjustments as you get better and have a better idea of what might work best for you.

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yes i see. I mostly run streets of willow and button willow but mostly 80% towards buttonwillow. Button willow is an amazing track, pretty smooth as you know yourself im sure lol. only bad part on the track is riverside and you have to avoid a couple curbs cause the car gets squirrelly over some curbs anyways. but i feel like there are some curbs (bus stop, phil hill, the esses) that love being eaten even with high spring rates. correct me if im wrong. also want to eventually do auto club fontana which is pretty smooth and chuckwalla i heard is great as well

i made the change to 18k front/16k rear, just cause i have the personality to always be like "shoot, shoulda went more" , and i can always get the 16k/14k if i find these too aggressive like you've said before

Hotrodz · 05-17-2021, 04:11 PM

Your ride, your money and you get to do whatever you want!

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Brendan · 05-17-2021, 05:58 PM

You might want to order set of helper springs for the fortunes as well. When I went that high a rate I lost a bunch of droop since the springs don't compress as much. Having more droop allows the car to stay better composed over rough surfaces. I needed to go to a 5 inch rear spring to make space but you can use the 7 inch front. Fortune should be able to sell you the helpers you need on their site but if not dm me and I can show you my setup.

Rusty · 05-17-2021, 07:30 PM

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Your ride, your money and you get to do whatever you want!

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Flat rock skipping across a pond comes to mind.

justin_boy · 05-18-2021, 12:41 AM

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Your ride, your money and you get to do whatever you want!

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haha i messed up didnt i

justin_boy · 05-18-2021, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Flat rock skipping across a pond comes to mind.

lol glad you guys are having fun at my expense

btw forgot to mention ill only be running r compound 100 tw tires as well

Hotrodz · 05-18-2021, 08:36 AM

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haha i messed up didnt i

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Originally Posted by justin_boy

lol glad you guys are having fun at my expense

btw forgot to mention ill only be running r compound 100 tw tires as well

Not making fun of you and there is no messing up. You get to make your own choice as in picking a flat stone to skip across the pond. Some skip some don't and then you get to make another choice. We have been around a little while and we are still skipping stones across the pond.

cv129 · 05-18-2021, 10:21 AM

Trial and error is always part of suspension setup. Have fun with it!

I wish it’s as easy as changing settings on a video game, or have a full crew to do the adjustment in an instant (air jacks built into the chassis, center locks, real time data, blah blah).

Just let me dream on….

redondoaveb · 05-18-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

Trial and error is always part of suspension setup. Have fun with it!

I wish it’s as easy as changing settings on a video game, or have a full crew to do the adjustment in an instant (air jacks built into the chassis, center locks, real time data, blah blah).

Just let me dream on….

.....on the fly adjustability

Rusty · 05-18-2021, 11:24 AM

Get everything dialed in for one track. The faster you go, the slower it feels.

Go to a different track, and think of what an evil handling car you have. It wants to put you into the first fence you see.

Everything feels like it's in hyper speed. Back to square one.

justin_boy · 05-18-2021, 01:48 PM

haha okay! so I did 16k/14k and left it at that. i also bought the 18k's because as cygnus told me, they are interchangeable on the fortunes. they use a 7" 60mm with an adapter in the rear for a 65 to 60. correct me if im wrong

05-17-2021, 12:32 PM	#49 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	You need to consider that auto cross and circuit setups are different. Springs are easy items to change out. You have no aero. You also need to consider the track surfaces you run on. Bumpy and uneven surface are unforgiving if you spung too stiff. Smooth surfaces you can go stiffer. Do you like running curbs or not. Little things to consider. I would start were the majority do and then make adjustments as you get better and have a better idea of what might work best for you. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue, Rusty and justin_boy like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

05-17-2021, 04:11 PM	#51 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Your ride, your money and you get to do whatever you want! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Rusty and justin_boy like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

05-17-2021, 05:58 PM	#52 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 629 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	You might want to order set of helper springs for the fortunes as well. When I went that high a rate I lost a bunch of droop since the springs don't compress as much. Having more droop allows the car to stay better composed over rough surfaces. I needed to go to a 5 inch rear spring to make space but you can use the 7 inch front. Fortune should be able to sell you the helpers you need on their site but if not dm me and I can show you my setup. justin_boy likes this.

05-18-2021, 10:21 AM	#57 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,193 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 159827	Trial and error is always part of suspension setup. Have fun with it! I wish it’s as easy as changing settings on a video game, or have a full crew to do the adjustment in an instant (air jacks built into the chassis, center locks, real time data, blah blah). Just let me dream on…. JARblue, Rusty, Hotrodz and 1 others like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

05-18-2021, 11:24 AM	#59 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,921 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	Get everything dialed in for one track. The faster you go, the slower it feels. Go to a different track, and think of what an evil handling car you have. It wants to put you into the first fence you see. Everything feels like it's in hyper speed. Back to square one. cv129 and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-17-2021, 02:49 AM	#48 (permalink)
justin_boy Track Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: woodland hills Posts: 600 Drives: z34 Rep Power: 8367	been thinking about changing the order to 18k front 16k rear, but im worried transitioning will be compromised. what do you guys think about that

05-18-2021, 01:48 PM	#60 (permalink)
justin_boy Track Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: woodland hills Posts: 600 Drives: z34 Rep Power: 8367	haha okay! so I did 16k/14k and left it at that. i also bought the 18k's because as cygnus told me, they are interchangeable on the fortunes. they use a 7" 60mm with an adapter in the rear for a 65 to 60. correct me if im wrong

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