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Originally Posted by JARblue What if you rebuild the chassis out of titanium? I bet that would get you some weight savings! while your at it fill the titanium tubes

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Old 12-24-2020, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What if you rebuild the chassis out of titanium? I bet that would get you some weight savings!
while your at it fill the titanium tubes with helium for extra lightness
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while your at it fill the titanium tubes with helium for extra lightness
Porsche used to fill the chassis tubes on the 917 racer with N2 and had a gauge on the dash. If the gauge dropped pressure. The chassis had a crack and would fail in short time. Causing an accident. So it gave the drivers a chance to slow down.
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Porsche used to fill the chassis tubes on the 917 racer with N2 and had a gauge on the dash. If the gauge dropped pressure. The chassis had a crack and would fail in short time. Causing an accident. So it gave the drivers a chance to slow down.
That. Is. Amazing. And absolutely genius.

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Back in the 70's. Some Nascar crews chiefs used to stuff extra fuel line in the chassis. Sometimes being able to add another 3~4 gallons of fuel. This would give them another lap or two before pitting.
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I'm in full support of this idea!
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I spent a lot of time stripping out weight, just to gain a LOT of it back with the monster cage, fire system and cool shirt. Still ST3/TT3 HP/weight ratio with NASA, but always looking for additional weight reduction. Looks like my best option now is to hit the New Years resolution hard and loose some driver weight.
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I spent a lot of time stripping out weight, just to gain a LOT of it back with the monster cage, fire system and cool shirt. Still ST3/TT3 HP/weight ratio with NASA, but always looking for additional weight reduction. Looks like my best option now is to hit the New Years resolution hard and loose some driver weight.
You could probably drop another 10-15lbs overall by pulling out the door bars since you have NASCAR bars....
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You could probably drop another 10-15lbs overall by pulling out the door bars since you have NASCAR bars....
Good point. I’ll look at that today. Thanks.
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These are my doors fwiw...~4lbs each:
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These are my doors fwiw...~4lbs each:
Very nice. Since the doors on the 370z are aluminum, I’m thinking that going to carbon wouldn’t get me a whole lot of weight saving. Same thing with the hood and rear hatch. How much do your doors weigh?
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These are my doors fwiw...~4lbs each:
What carbon doors are you using? Or did you just make your own from an oe two piece mold?
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What carbon doors are you using? Or did you just make your own from an oe two piece mold?
I'm not sure he is still actively making 350/370z parts, but...
https://www.exact-performance.com/exact-performance

He has his hands full being the official McLaren Body Repair guy for the Chicago area. Though that should give you some level of indication to the quality of his carbon work.
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With a full cage, your definition of "door" could be quite malleable, wigjiggy. All you need is a shape/contour, a hinge, and a "lock". This could be just a two layer carbon or Kevlar laminate and weigh 3-4 lbs or less. The locking and hinge mechanisms don't even need to be structural so you could shave some grams there...
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With a full cage, your definition of "door" could be quite malleable, wigjiggy. All you need is a shape/contour, a hinge, and a "lock". This could be just a two layer carbon or Kevlar laminate and weigh 3-4 lbs or less. The locking and hinge mechanisms don't even need to be structural so you could shave some grams there...
Good point. Thanks. I may start by just cutting as much as possible out of the door. Then weigh it and determine if a switch to CF is worth it.
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With a full cage, your definition of "door" could be quite malleable, wigjiggy. All you need is a shape/contour, a hinge, and a "lock". This could be just a two layer carbon or Kevlar laminate and weigh 3-4 lbs or less. The locking and hinge mechanisms don't even need to be structural so you could shave some grams there...
I’ve also seen guys cut a LOT of the interior structure out since the cage is now there to support it. I’m a little leery of that.

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