2020 Formula 1 thread

DLSTR · 12-15-2020, 07:01 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-covid-cluster

Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn has revealed a translator triggered the most significant COVID-19 outbreak that the series had to deal with this year.

Although Brawn didn't specify the event, it's understood that the "worst cluster" occurred at the Russian Grand Prix at Sochi in September.

Brawn praised the way the series coped with the pandemic, and also highlighted the anomaly of three out of the small group of 20 F1 drivers testing positive.

F1's organisation and the FIA introduced strict protocols for the start of the season in Austria, including a regime that saw extensive COVID-19 testing on race weekends that involved both the travelling regulars and local officials and staff at the venues.

Over 78,000 tests were conducted under FIA jurisdiction at the 17 events, and they produced just 78 positive tests, although the numbers don't include the obligatory testing between races that took away from the venues.

Sergio Perez, Lance Stroll and Lewis Hamilton all had to miss races after testing positive, representing a much higher percentage than was seen in the overall F1 numbers.

Over 1,300 people working for the FIA, F1, the teams and the media travelled to each race, not counting the F2, F3 and Porsche Supercup teams seen at some events.

"I think it's a brilliant example of how F1 in times of crisis pulls together as a complete family," Brawn told the F1 Podcast. "We spend most of our lives, or at least I did when I was competing, in trying to destroy each other.

"And then we get faced with a situation like this, and F1 comes together and excels. I'm just really proud of what everyone was able to do this year, because it seemed an almost impossible task. When I look at how things were when we started this adventure, I'm really proud."

When asked about the test results, Brawn highlighted the relatively high percentage of drivers who were infected by COVID.

"It was slightly over one in 1,000," he said. "And it's fascinating to look at those cases, because we had three drivers, which is kind of disproportionate out of 20 drivers. That's something you've got to think about.

"Of those 78 that were positive, quite a number were track workers, or people associated with the country we were in.

"I think the worst outbreak cluster we had was when a translator caught us out in one of the countries, because he was working with a group of people, translating for them.

"Then of course he came into contact with them, and we suddenly had a fierce little cluster, but we quickly got on to that.

"So very few outbreaks, amongst the teams. The numbers within the teams of mechanics and engineers was very low. Interesting exercise to study the data, and I know some of the most diligent people in F1 got caught out. I don't know where it came from."

Brawn admitted that when the revised season was planned around the new COVID protocols there were many unknowns.

"I think the thing that none of us really understood is what would happen if we started to get an outbreak, how it would be managed, could we control it could we limit it?" he said.

"And none of us know enough about the dynamics of this disease, and how it spreads. The rudimentaries are known, but the subtleties aren't known. I mean, how long do you need to be in the company of an infected person, and what you need to do around them to become infected yourself?

"So all those things were uncertain, we simply didn't know how it would develop. And I think when we had our first positive cases, that was the anxious time to know whether they could just be limited on whether the systems and protocols we put in place would be sufficient to contain the outbreaks, which did prove to be the case.

"I think everyone was pretty diligent in F1. I think we had to be on our guard as we progressed, because it was easy to get complacent, and easy to drop your guard.

"But I think the protocols we put in place, the face masks, social distancing, bubbles, it did mean that when we had cases, they didn't escalate and become uncontrollable.

"I think that was a key barrier for us to get through, to know we could actually manage it. Because it would be unrealistic to think we wouldn't have cases. But when we got them, how are we going to deal with them? And could we contain them?"

Brawn also confirmed that the COVID protocols will be applied again in 2021.

"We're not going to go into next year with a switch turned. We're going to have to carry on, and learn from what we've learned this year, and be as diligent, because the vaccines aren't going to become effective until sometime during the year, in terms of numbers," he said.

"So we're going to need to continue testing. The testing regime may change, the methodology may change, but we're going to have another year undoubtedly of having to be super diligent, and apply the protocols again."

DLSTR · 12-18-2020, 06:12 AM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-bull-for-2021

Sergio Perez looks poised to secure a seat with Red Bull for the 2021 Formula 1 season, with an announcement set to be made on Friday.

Red Bull had vowed to make a swift decision about whether or not to stick with Alex Albon, after the Thai driver struggled to match team-mate Max Verstappen throughout the past season.

He did take podium finishes at the Tuscan and Bahrain grands prix, but he finished the campaign 109 points behind his Dutch team-mate.

Albon had faced difficulties getting on top of the tricky handling of the RB16 but had appeared to have made some progress over the final race weekend in Abu Dhabi.

But, amid growing indications that Red Bull felt its 2021 ambitions could be better served by opting for a proven more experienced driver like Perez, the team appears to have wasted little time in making its call.

danegrey · 12-18-2020, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-bull-for-2021

Sergio Perez looks poised to secure a seat with Red Bull for the 2021 Formula 1 season, with an announcement set to be made on Friday.

Red Bull had vowed to make a swift decision about whether or not to stick with Alex Albon, after the Thai driver struggled to match team-mate Max Verstappen throughout the past season.

He did take podium finishes at the Tuscan and Bahrain grands prix, but he finished the campaign 109 points behind his Dutch team-mate.

Albon had faced difficulties getting on top of the tricky handling of the RB16 but had appeared to have made some progress over the final race weekend in Abu Dhabi.

But, amid growing indications that Red Bull felt its 2021 ambitions could be better served by opting for a proven more experienced driver like Perez, the team appears to have wasted little time in making its call.

its now official -- Albon is reserve driver -- Perez on one year contract

https://the-race.com/formula-1/perez...bull-for-2021/

ZCanadian · 12-18-2020, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey

its now official -- Albon is reserve driver -- Perez on one year contract

https://the-race.com/formula-1/perez...bull-for-2021/

He'll have had enough of the BS at RBR by the end of that year, to want to go into WRC!

danegrey · 12-18-2020, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

He'll have had enough of the BS at RBR by the end of that year, to want to go into WRC!

that's funny, but I heard a rumor, he has signed with williams for 2022, need to find that...

DLSTR · 12-18-2020, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey

its now official -- Albon is reserve driver -- Perez on one year contract

https://the-race.com/formula-1/perez...bull-for-2021/

Very cool link and the other links it contains. Thank you for posting that up. I have not really spend much time on that particular site.

danegrey · 12-22-2020, 03:49 PM

Ferrari building Haas facility in Maranello (and other customers - see article)

https://racer.com/2020/12/22/ferrari...-in-maranello/

just interesting

God-Speed · 12-22-2020, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey

Ferrari building Haas facility in Maranello (and other customers - see article)

https://racer.com/2020/12/22/ferrari...-in-maranello/

just interesting

However they will still not get the same stuff as the Ferrari Team.

DLSTR · 12-23-2020, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God-Speed

However they will still not get the same stuff as the Ferrari Team.

Haas can buy up to the FIA limit legal of Ferrari parts. Its a cost strategy that can work for or against you lol

danegrey · 12-23-2020, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God-Speed

However they will still not get the same stuff as the Ferrari Team.

Agree, but with cost limits and all that stuff maybe HAAS will get lucky

danegrey · 12-25-2020, 12:18 PM

As the F1 season has closed out, here are some pics from 1983 Detroit GP, these pics were taken in the parking garage, I think it was one of the towers. Never today would common folks be able to get so close.

Ferrari

Williams

Renault

Liger (?)

Toleman

link to the album
Nissan 370Z Forum - danegrey's Album: 1983 Detroit GP II

Enjoy and happy hoidays

ZCanadian · 12-27-2020, 09:49 AM

Jeremy Clarkson on Lewis Hamilton in todays Sunday Times:

"After Lewis Hamilton crossed the finishing line in Turkey and clinched a record-equalling seventh Formula One world championship, he spent the next hour vomiting dreary right-on platitudes into every microphone he could find.
Kids were told that if they stuck at it, they too could realise their dreams, which isn’t necessarily the case because not everyone can sleep with Alicia Vikander.
After a brief pause while Lewis got in touch with his feminine side by pretending to have a little weep, he was really into his stride, urging the sport to be more woke on racial issues and more sustainable too. And then off he went to play with his vegan dog.
The only slight deviation from the Twitter playbook was an admission that as well as his usual post-race tipple, meat-free minestrone soup, he would allow himself some wine. This puts him a long way from Keith Moon and caused a friend’s son to send me a text: “What an arse this man is.”

He is not the only one to think like that. When Fernando Alonso won his world championship, thousands of delighted locals ringed the house where he’d been brought up, shouting jubilantly. But when Lewis won, his home town of Stevenage didn’t react at all. It’s as if he is not loved here.

That’s a shame because when I first met Lewis, 13 years ago, he was a very engaging, very likeable and very polite young man. He was also, very obviously, an extraordinarily good driver. The best in history? The statistics say yes, and many people in and around the sport would agree. And if you argued they’d point to the race on that Turkish skating rink as further proof that superlatives are needed when discussing his abilities. “He lapped his teammate,” they’d say, forgetting perhaps that his teammate had damaged his car on the first corner, making it pretty much undriveable.

I’m not going to get involved in a debate about who’s the best F1 driver, though, so let’s move on to the fact that in Turkey the podium was occupied by Lewis, 35, Sergio Pérez, 30, and Sebastian Vettel, 33. All the twentysomething young guns were slithering hither and thither, attempting moves that were impossible and paying the price. The old boys, with their wise heads, just went about their business calmly and sensibly, and were the last men standing.

Is that what we want, though? Old men bumbling along and staying out of trouble? Or do we want Max Verstappen pirouetting down the main straight and Carlos Sainz driving like he’s in a Lancia Stratos and Charles Leclerc costing himself a podium finish on the last corner by attempting a smoky pipe-dream pass on Pérez?

Weirdly, while I enjoyed the antics of the embryos and the foetuses, and recognise that their oversteery antics and lurid lock-ups are pages they must turn until they too become rounded and complete, I did find myself rooting for Vettel.

Partly this is because I like him. He’s very funny. And it is partly because, since Ferrari told him earlier in the season that he wouldn’t be required next year, he has seemingly been on a mission to damage his car as often as possible. And he doesn’t just biff a wing that would be fairly simple and cheap to repair. Oh no, when he goes off, he makes sure that all four corners hit the barriers as hard as possible.
This makes me happy because I’m not really a fan of Ferrari any more. It seems to me to be mostly a licensing operation for hats and T-shirts. Yet the fact the F1 team is in disarray this year — as I write, it is behind not just Mercedes but Red Bull, McLaren, Racing Point and even Renault — suggests the company’s best engineers are working on the road cars."

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 73 Posts: 3,194 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649541	Ferrari building Haas facility in Maranello (and other customers - see article) https://racer.com/2020/12/22/ferrari...-in-maranello/ just interesting __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 73 Posts: 3,194 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649541	As the F1 season has closed out, here are some pics from 1983 Detroit GP, these pics were taken in the parking garage, I think it was one of the towers. Never today would common folks be able to get so close. Ferrari Williams Renault Liger (?) Toleman link to the album Nissan 370Z Forum - danegrey's Album: 1983 Detroit GP II Enjoy and happy hoidays __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21269	https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-covid-cluster Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn has revealed a translator triggered the most significant COVID-19 outbreak that the series had to deal with this year. Although Brawn didn't specify the event, it's understood that the "worst cluster" occurred at the Russian Grand Prix at Sochi in September. Brawn praised the way the series coped with the pandemic, and also highlighted the anomaly of three out of the small group of 20 F1 drivers testing positive. F1's organisation and the FIA introduced strict protocols for the start of the season in Austria, including a regime that saw extensive COVID-19 testing on race weekends that involved both the travelling regulars and local officials and staff at the venues. Over 78,000 tests were conducted under FIA jurisdiction at the 17 events, and they produced just 78 positive tests, although the numbers don't include the obligatory testing between races that took away from the venues. Sergio Perez, Lance Stroll and Lewis Hamilton all had to miss races after testing positive, representing a much higher percentage than was seen in the overall F1 numbers. Over 1,300 people working for the FIA, F1, the teams and the media travelled to each race, not counting the F2, F3 and Porsche Supercup teams seen at some events. "I think it's a brilliant example of how F1 in times of crisis pulls together as a complete family," Brawn told the F1 Podcast. "We spend most of our lives, or at least I did when I was competing, in trying to destroy each other. "And then we get faced with a situation like this, and F1 comes together and excels. I'm just really proud of what everyone was able to do this year, because it seemed an almost impossible task. When I look at how things were when we started this adventure, I'm really proud." When asked about the test results, Brawn highlighted the relatively high percentage of drivers who were infected by COVID. "It was slightly over one in 1,000," he said. "And it's fascinating to look at those cases, because we had three drivers, which is kind of disproportionate out of 20 drivers. That's something you've got to think about. "Of those 78 that were positive, quite a number were track workers, or people associated with the country we were in. "I think the worst outbreak cluster we had was when a translator caught us out in one of the countries, because he was working with a group of people, translating for them. "Then of course he came into contact with them, and we suddenly had a fierce little cluster, but we quickly got on to that. "So very few outbreaks, amongst the teams. The numbers within the teams of mechanics and engineers was very low. Interesting exercise to study the data, and I know some of the most diligent people in F1 got caught out. I don't know where it came from." Brawn admitted that when the revised season was planned around the new COVID protocols there were many unknowns. "I think the thing that none of us really understood is what would happen if we started to get an outbreak, how it would be managed, could we control it could we limit it?" he said. "And none of us know enough about the dynamics of this disease, and how it spreads. The rudimentaries are known, but the subtleties aren't known. I mean, how long do you need to be in the company of an infected person, and what you need to do around them to become infected yourself? "So all those things were uncertain, we simply didn't know how it would develop. And I think when we had our first positive cases, that was the anxious time to know whether they could just be limited on whether the systems and protocols we put in place would be sufficient to contain the outbreaks, which did prove to be the case. "I think everyone was pretty diligent in F1. I think we had to be on our guard as we progressed, because it was easy to get complacent, and easy to drop your guard. "But I think the protocols we put in place, the face masks, social distancing, bubbles, it did mean that when we had cases, they didn't escalate and become uncontrollable. "I think that was a key barrier for us to get through, to know we could actually manage it. Because it would be unrealistic to think we wouldn't have cases. But when we got them, how are we going to deal with them? And could we contain them?" Brawn also confirmed that the COVID protocols will be applied again in 2021. "We're not going to go into next year with a switch turned. We're going to have to carry on, and learn from what we've learned this year, and be as diligent, because the vaccines aren't going to become effective until sometime during the year, in terms of numbers," he said. "So we're going to need to continue testing. The testing regime may change, the methodology may change, but we're going to have another year undoubtedly of having to be super diligent, and apply the protocols again."

12-18-2020, 06:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21269	https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-bull-for-2021 Sergio Perez looks poised to secure a seat with Red Bull for the 2021 Formula 1 season, with an announcement set to be made on Friday. Red Bull had vowed to make a swift decision about whether or not to stick with Alex Albon, after the Thai driver struggled to match team-mate Max Verstappen throughout the past season. He did take podium finishes at the Tuscan and Bahrain grands prix, but he finished the campaign 109 points behind his Dutch team-mate. Albon had faced difficulties getting on top of the tricky handling of the RB16 but had appeared to have made some progress over the final race weekend in Abu Dhabi. But, amid growing indications that Red Bull felt its 2021 ambitions could be better served by opting for a proven more experienced driver like Perez, the team appears to have wasted little time in making its call.

12-27-2020, 09:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60275	Jeremy Clarkson on Lewis Hamilton in todays Sunday Times: "After Lewis Hamilton crossed the finishing line in Turkey and clinched a record-equalling seventh Formula One world championship, he spent the next hour vomiting dreary right-on platitudes into every microphone he could find. Kids were told that if they stuck at it, they too could realise their dreams, which isn’t necessarily the case because not everyone can sleep with Alicia Vikander. After a brief pause while Lewis got in touch with his feminine side by pretending to have a little weep, he was really into his stride, urging the sport to be more woke on racial issues and more sustainable too. And then off he went to play with his vegan dog. The only slight deviation from the Twitter playbook was an admission that as well as his usual post-race tipple, meat-free minestrone soup, he would allow himself some wine. This puts him a long way from Keith Moon and caused a friend’s son to send me a text: “What an arse this man is.” He is not the only one to think like that. When Fernando Alonso won his world championship, thousands of delighted locals ringed the house where he’d been brought up, shouting jubilantly. But when Lewis won, his home town of Stevenage didn’t react at all. It’s as if he is not loved here. That’s a shame because when I first met Lewis, 13 years ago, he was a very engaging, very likeable and very polite young man. He was also, very obviously, an extraordinarily good driver. The best in history? The statistics say yes, and many people in and around the sport would agree. And if you argued they’d point to the race on that Turkish skating rink as further proof that superlatives are needed when discussing his abilities. “He lapped his teammate,” they’d say, forgetting perhaps that his teammate had damaged his car on the first corner, making it pretty much undriveable. I’m not going to get involved in a debate about who’s the best F1 driver, though, so let’s move on to the fact that in Turkey the podium was occupied by Lewis, 35, Sergio Pérez, 30, and Sebastian Vettel, 33. All the twentysomething young guns were slithering hither and thither, attempting moves that were impossible and paying the price. The old boys, with their wise heads, just went about their business calmly and sensibly, and were the last men standing. Is that what we want, though? Old men bumbling along and staying out of trouble? Or do we want Max Verstappen pirouetting down the main straight and Carlos Sainz driving like he’s in a Lancia Stratos and Charles Leclerc costing himself a podium finish on the last corner by attempting a smoky pipe-dream pass on Pérez? Weirdly, while I enjoyed the antics of the embryos and the foetuses, and recognise that their oversteery antics and lurid lock-ups are pages they must turn until they too become rounded and complete, I did find myself rooting for Vettel. Partly this is because I like him. He’s very funny. And it is partly because, since Ferrari told him earlier in the season that he wouldn’t be required next year, he has seemingly been on a mission to damage his car as often as possible. And he doesn’t just biff a wing that would be fairly simple and cheap to repair. Oh no, when he goes off, he makes sure that all four corners hit the barriers as hard as possible. This makes me happy because I’m not really a fan of Ferrari any more. It seems to me to be mostly a licensing operation for hats and T-shirts. Yet the fact the F1 team is in disarray this year — as I write, it is behind not just Mercedes but Red Bull, McLaren, Racing Point and even Renault — suggests the company’s best engineers are working on the road cars."