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AK370Z · 10-10-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

Have you ever seen the pics people take at night of themselves, waving around glow sticks and what not ,with really long exposures? The glow sticks leave really cool trails and stuff! Pretty neat.

That's exactly what I did (minus the glowsticks). Pretty cool. I don't own SLRs

. But if I did, I would get creative with it!

6spd · 10-10-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Z BEST

Hey don't know where you were trying to take pics at but the higher the ISO the more noise you will get, if you can get away with 400 or less for ISO the better quality your images will be. Just thought I'd help you out.

you know what... I know that... but it totally slipped my mind. God, I feel pretty stupid right now

[hangs head in shame]

Nikon FM · 10-10-2010, 06:47 PM

My favorite camera…..Nikon FM

Primary thought about quality shots: it's all about the composition.

AK370Z · 10-10-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM

My favorite camera…..Nikon FM

NO way! :looks at the screen name:

Z BEST · 10-10-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

Have you ever seen the pics people take at night of themselves, waving around glow sticks and what not ,with really long exposures? The glow sticks leave really cool trails and stuff! Pretty neat.

I was bored and did this with a Laser pointer one night lol.

6spd · 10-10-2010, 09:13 PM

ha, thats cool!

wilsonp · 10-11-2010, 12:07 AM

You might want to try a serious noise reduction program - LightRoom 3 is pretty good and very fast at NR, I also like Topaz DeNoise, but it is slower.

Boost_lee · 10-11-2010, 12:33 AM

Nice Z_Best, I want to try out light painting some time

6spd · 10-11-2010, 09:08 AM

Between these two lenses, just based on general ability, which would you guys recommend:

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS - $380ish

or

EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS - $230ish

Both have the IS that I like. I prefer the price of the 2nd, naturally, but the 1st is supposedly much lighter and "superior".

HKYStormFront · 10-11-2010, 10:28 AM

the 28-135 is "USM" right? (ultrasonic motor) if it is and the 55-250 isn't (i can't remember) then i'd go with the 28-135 but that's just me. USM is faaarrrrr superior to non-USM lenses

6spd · 10-11-2010, 10:32 AM

right, the 28-135 is USM, the other isnt. If i get an outlet to try the lens, i will do that, but if i cant try it first, i feel comfortable buying it as it is at least going to be better than the stock lens!

NXTAZEE · 10-11-2010, 11:51 AM

For anyone wanting to learn how to use a camera, shortcourses.com is an excellent place to start. It really helped me out when I got started. I shoot a Pentax K110 with an 18-55 lens. A couple years ago I added a Tamron 70-300 Di lens. Next camera will probably be a Nikon, but Pentax is really making some nice cameras now.

HKYStormFront · 10-11-2010, 12:19 PM

yea pentax has come a long way in just a few short years in DSLR's and while it's cool to have alternatives, canon and nikon (and to some degree, sony) are the big players and have the best lenses with the best glass as a rule of thumb.

spearfish25 · 10-11-2010, 01:09 PM

I've been a long time Nikon user. Both Canon and Nikon make quality products, but they have different benefits. I've always felt that Nikon makes better bodies, better AF systems, and the best button layout. Their lenses are top quality but don't fill all the focal length gaps well. Canon, on the other hand, makes quality bodies but I dislike their button configuration. Also, their AF is inferior to Nikon's. However, Canon has a lens for EVERYTHING. Their lens lineup is pretty spectacular.

I'm selling one of my lenses if anyone is interested. It's the new version of the Nikon 18-200 VR II. I received it less than a year ago as a gift and rarely touch it given the other lenses in my bag (17-55/2.8, 70-200/2.8). It's a pristine lens for anyone looking for an all-purpose walk around lens. Best price I can find is B&H at $760 for the US version. Mine is also the US version and I have the warranty papers so you can get the remaining four years of coverage. Asking $640 + shipping.

wilsonp · 10-11-2010, 06:19 PM

6spd:

I presume you prefer the price of the first? Oh, I see - you have the prices reversed.

They are hardly comparable lenses - they really solve different problems entirely.

The 28-135mm is a walk around lens for a full frame camera. On a APS-C camera, it is a normal to telephoto lens. It is a very old design that was introduced in 1998. You can often get it cheaper on eBay because it is bundled as the kit lens for a number of APS-C cameras (40D, 50D, 7D), which it isn't really suited for, IMNVHO.

The 55-250mm is a kit lens companion intended as the first purchase after the camera +18-55 kit lens is purchased. It runs from mild telephoto to long telephoto. As a kit lens, it is very light, it is very inexpensive for its range, and made (mostly) of plastic, but its optical quality is pretty good.

Due to its age, the IS on the 28-135 isn't as effective (nominally 3 stops) as it is on the 55-250 (nominally 4 stops). In addition, the 28-135 is at f/5.6 at 85mm, where the 55-250 is there at 154mm, so it is slightly brighter as a telephoto lens.

Really, though, it depends on your general purpose. I'd say a 18-55/55-250 is a great combination setup. If you want a walk around lens, I personally prefer the 15-85, or even a superzoom lens.

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10-11-2010, 12:07 AM	#22 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 16	You might want to try a serious noise reduction program - LightRoom 3 is pretty good and very fast at NR, I also like Topaz DeNoise, but it is slower. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-11-2010, 09:08 AM	#24 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	Between these two lenses, just based on general ability, which would you guys recommend: Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS - $380ish or EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS - $230ish Both have the IS that I like. I prefer the price of the 2nd, naturally, but the 1st is supposedly much lighter and "superior". __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com Last edited by 6spd; 10-11-2010 at 08:39 PM. Reason: switched prices

10-11-2010, 10:28 AM	#25 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	the 28-135 is "USM" right? (ultrasonic motor) if it is and the 55-250 isn't (i can't remember) then i'd go with the 28-135 but that's just me. USM is faaarrrrr superior to non-USM lenses __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-11-2010, 12:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
Boost_lee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 2,813 Drives: 09 370Z TT 6MT Rep Power: 29	Nice Z_Best, I want to try out light painting some time

10-11-2010, 10:32 AM	#26 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	right, the 28-135 is USM, the other isnt. If i get an outlet to try the lens, i will do that, but if i cant try it first, i feel comfortable buying it as it is at least going to be better than the stock lens! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-11-2010, 11:51 AM	#27 (permalink)
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10-11-2010, 12:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	yea pentax has come a long way in just a few short years in DSLR's and while it's cool to have alternatives, canon and nikon (and to some degree, sony) are the big players and have the best lenses with the best glass as a rule of thumb. __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-11-2010, 01:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	I've been a long time Nikon user. Both Canon and Nikon make quality products, but they have different benefits. I've always felt that Nikon makes better bodies, better AF systems, and the best button layout. Their lenses are top quality but don't fill all the focal length gaps well. Canon, on the other hand, makes quality bodies but I dislike their button configuration. Also, their AF is inferior to Nikon's. However, Canon has a lens for EVERYTHING. Their lens lineup is pretty spectacular. I'm selling one of my lenses if anyone is interested. It's the new version of the Nikon 18-200 VR II. I received it less than a year ago as a gift and rarely touch it given the other lenses in my bag (17-55/2.8, 70-200/2.8). It's a pristine lens for anyone looking for an all-purpose walk around lens. Best price I can find is B&H at $760 for the US version. Mine is also the US version and I have the warranty papers so you can get the remaining four years of coverage. Asking $640 + shipping. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

10-11-2010, 06:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 16	6spd: I presume you prefer the price of the first? Oh, I see - you have the prices reversed. They are hardly comparable lenses - they really solve different problems entirely. The 28-135mm is a walk around lens for a full frame camera. On a APS-C camera, it is a normal to telephoto lens. It is a very old design that was introduced in 1998. You can often get it cheaper on eBay because it is bundled as the kit lens for a number of APS-C cameras (40D, 50D, 7D), which it isn't really suited for, IMNVHO. The 55-250mm is a kit lens companion intended as the first purchase after the camera +18-55 kit lens is purchased. It runs from mild telephoto to long telephoto. As a kit lens, it is very light, it is very inexpensive for its range, and made (mostly) of plastic, but its optical quality is pretty good. Due to its age, the IS on the 28-135 isn't as effective (nominally 3 stops) as it is on the 55-250 (nominally 4 stops). In addition, the 28-135 is at f/5.6 at 85mm, where the 55-250 is there at 154mm, so it is slightly brighter as a telephoto lens. Really, though, it depends on your general purpose. I'd say a 18-55/55-250 is a great combination setup. If you want a walk around lens, I personally prefer the 15-85, or even a superzoom lens. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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