no more 15 nismo tech, looking at M235I

daisuke149 · 01-27-2015, 10:11 AM

I would disagree with Mustang on the 2015 being the same as the 2009. The 2015 with its chassis tuning and wider stance is vastly better than the 2009. BUT. it is still not quite a 235. The 235 is the better car. Better potential.

m4a1mustang · 01-27-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

I would disagree with Mustang on the 2015 being the same as the 2009. The 2015 with its chassis tuning and wider stance is vastly better than the 2009. BUT. it is still not quite a 235. The 235 is the better car. Better potential.

You actually agree with me, but I didn't necessarily express my opinion clearly enough. Maybe I will finish my 235i novel tonight and post it.

m4a1mustang · 01-27-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mwagner07

Very cool responses guys..
I really wish Nissan would bring adaptive suspension, twin turbos to a 3.0 6 cyl
and a better slush box, twin clutch or even refine it like BMW single which is seamless.
The nismo needs to make 375HP and 350 TQ to be priced at the $47 mark..

Well once spring comes around I'm gonna start hitting up the test drives..
I feel though it's gonna be an Esortil Blue M235ix with Coral Red leather or a yellow M2 - lol...
I have it quoted at $45K with some nice options and of course being in the Northeast the AWD is a plus.. but not a deal breaker..

Let me ask you m4a1mustang.. Did you order it with the performance summer tires and is the top speed limit removed to allow 155mph.. It is my understanding the the car comes unlimited (to 1555) but when optioned with x drive or all season tires they drop it to 130mph..

THANKS in advance.

I actually haven't ordered one. It's under consideration, though.

Joker_J · 01-27-2015, 10:39 AM

If your not in a hurry, just leave your name and phone number and circle it in front of the dealer and tell them to call you if they want to sell it for the price you stated.

DCNISMO · 01-27-2015, 11:15 AM

I sat in the M235 at the DC car show. It was a nice car and the interior was really nice. For that price point it beats the Nismo handily. BUT the GT 350 Mustang was really hot too! Threw that in to get the haters hating.

m4a1mustang · 01-27-2015, 11:19 AM

The GT350 is going to be a hell of a car! I'm not sure how good of a daily driver it would be, though.

DCNISMO · 01-27-2015, 12:13 PM

As a DD for the GT350, probably not.....but for me I only drive for fun on weekends or the week for a doctor appt or something. Its not quite enough to make me get rid of the 997 911 C4S, but its tempting IF it really performs as its supposed too AND its priced at 54K or so.....Now the GT350R.....I don't think that going to be street legal and I bet it will cost 100K. People like me, who remember the car crap of the 70's and 80's in all their smog pump and carburetor glory...appreciate all the great cars we have now. Its a great time now.

Magic Bus · 01-27-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I started to write about the M235i but it turned into a novel. Let's just say I test drove one on a whim, with zero expectations, and have not stopped thinking about it since.

The NISMO and M235i are two completely different cars. Do you want a refined, comfortable daily driver that still offers tons of performance, or do you want a raw sports car with fewer features?

IMO, the 2015 Nismo is the same as it was in 2009, save for interior enhancements and the new body design. At $46k+ it's a waste of money to me. Aside from the seats and the body kit it offers no additional performance over a regular 370Z Sport.

I feel like you get more for your money with the BMW, but ultimately it depends on what you want out of your car.

Mwagner, I agree with what mustang has said. I don't own a M235 but got to drive one very hard over different types of roads. I was very impressed as it has precise steering, handles great and accelerates very well. It's smooth and quiet of road noise as compared to the Z. It's a car that is engineered very well and has me considering an M car as my next car.

Here's the weird thing though, when I got back into my Z to drive home. I enjoyed driving the Z more. The only performance mod I have, is an exhaust on the Z. I guess the steering feedback (235 is precise but lacks feel) and rawness of the Z is something I never realized I enjoyed that much. Electronic gadgets/features, leather seats don't get me excited but the raw feel of a sports car does. As mustang said above, two completely different cars and it depends on what you want out of your car.

DCNISMO · 01-27-2015, 01:31 PM

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235 is precise but lacks feel)

I'm guessing due to the electric steering.....

m4a1mustang · 01-27-2015, 01:35 PM

Yep. Feel in the 235i is good, but not great. It is better than my 335i, which is still pretty decent.

m4a1mustang · 01-27-2015, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Mwagner, I agree with what mustang has said. I don't own a M235 but got to drive one very hard over different types of roads. I was very impressed as it has precise steering, handles great and accelerates very well. It's smooth and quiet of road noise as compared to the Z. It's a car that is engineered very well and has me considering an M car as my next car.

Here's the weird thing though, when I got back into my Z to drive home. I enjoyed driving the Z more. The only performance mod I have, is an exhaust on the Z. I guess the steering feedback (235 is precise but lacks feel) and rawness of the Z is something I never realized I enjoyed that much. Electronic gadgets/features, leather seats don't get me excited but the raw feel of a sports car does. As mustang said above, two completely different cars and it depends on what you want out of your car.

I totally understand your second point. In isolation I think the Z (or really any other sports car) is going to be more fun to drive in anger on a twisty back road. But when you start talking about a car that you will be driving every day, it's hard to beat the balance of the M235i.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-27-2015, 02:20 PM

m235 vs... my steering wheel is number and more artificial thanyours!!!!

DLSTR · 01-27-2015, 02:21 PM

Order the summer tires with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports ensures the higher top speed limiter is applied! Too easy!

kenchan · 01-28-2015, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Not my cup of tea, would have to be an M3 at the least. I hate dealers and it sounds like some bull crap

those things look like a civic on the streets. but too bad the dealer upped the price. im sure op's partially relieved he dont have to drive MT. lol

indyn · 01-28-2015, 03:06 PM

The new M3 is not well recieved in the Bmmer world, most of them are still sticking to the NA V8 M3.
M235i is not bad, have my eye on it too. I would say the reliability has gone up since the introduction of N55 engine.

What about the Audi S3?

01-27-2015, 11:15 AM	#50 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 178	I sat in the M235 at the DC car show. It was a nice car and the interior was really nice. For that price point it beats the Nismo handily. BUT the GT 350 Mustang was really hot too! Threw that in to get the haters hating. m4a1mustang likes this.

01-27-2015, 11:19 AM	#51 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The GT350 is going to be a hell of a car! I'm not sure how good of a daily driver it would be, though. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-27-2015, 12:13 PM	#52 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 178	As a DD for the GT350, probably not.....but for me I only drive for fun on weekends or the week for a doctor appt or something. Its not quite enough to make me get rid of the 997 911 C4S, but its tempting IF it really performs as its supposed too AND its priced at 54K or so.....Now the GT350R.....I don't think that going to be street legal and I bet it will cost 100K. People like me, who remember the car crap of the 70's and 80's in all their smog pump and carburetor glory...appreciate all the great cars we have now. Its a great time now. m4a1mustang and Tadpole like this.

01-27-2015, 01:35 PM	#55 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yep. Feel in the 235i is good, but not great. It is better than my 335i, which is still pretty decent. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-27-2015, 02:20 PM	#57 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	m235 vs... my steering wheel is number and more artificial thanyours!!!! __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

01-27-2015, 10:11 AM	#46 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	I would disagree with Mustang on the 2015 being the same as the 2009. The 2015 with its chassis tuning and wider stance is vastly better than the 2009. BUT. it is still not quite a 235. The 235 is the better car. Better potential.

01-27-2015, 10:39 AM	#49 (permalink)
Joker_J Track Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Ville, KY Posts: 576 Drives: 2014 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 12	If your not in a hurry, just leave your name and phone number and circle it in front of the dealer and tell them to call you if they want to sell it for the price you stated.

01-27-2015, 02:21 PM	#58 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	Order the summer tires with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports ensures the higher top speed limiter is applied! Too easy! m4a1mustang likes this.

01-28-2015, 03:06 PM	#60 (permalink)
indyn Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: farr north Posts: 241 Drives: 11 BMW 335i 6AT Rep Power: 14	The new M3 is not well recieved in the Bmmer world, most of them are still sticking to the NA V8 M3. M235i is not bad, have my eye on it too. I would say the reliability has gone up since the introduction of N55 engine. What about the Audi S3?

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