Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Red__Zed · 01-12-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

No one ever bitched about an RX8's handling, it's superb. As far as straightline acceleration, I was 1/2 joking. The RX8 will be a just a tiny bit quicker. I've seen reviews that put it at low 6's 0-60 and 1/4 mile at 14.5. This is close enough to be a driver's race. My main point is, other than looks, this car almost IS an RX8, just with a lot "new car buzz". Nobody's raving about the performance window of an RX8 and this car almost exactly matches it. I'd wait for a turbo model before I'd be interested.

the difference is the modding upside and reliability the rx8 lacks.

Lug · 01-13-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

the difference is the modding upside and reliability the rx8 lacks.

RX8 has average reliability and several turbo options, same as almost any other sports car. Won't know anything about this car till probably 2 years down the road. I'm still not seeing much difference besides "looks".

Red__Zed · 01-13-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

RX8 has average reliability and several turbo options, same as almost any other sports car. Won't know anything about this car till probably 2 years down the road. I'm still not seeing much difference besides "looks".

The renesis did not boost well at all(many people considered 330rwhp a success), and there were tons of reliability issues.

To this end: Oil injectors that don't sufficiently cover the critical parts (or overlube, 09+), inconsistent oil metering, apex seal temps, clogging fuel pump, etc.
And these are just stock issues.

Saying we wont know anything about the car until 2 years down the road is probably not accurate. The fa20 isn't a dramatic departure from anything in the past(and appears to simply be a stroked fa16). Besides the factory support, Subaru actually has aftermarket enthusiasts....

Lug · 01-13-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The renesis did not boost well at all(many people considered 330rwhp a success), and there were tons of reliability issues.

To this end: Oil injectors that don't sufficiently cover the critical parts (or overlube, 09+), inconsistent oil metering, apex seal temps, clogging fuel pump, etc.
And these are just stock issues.

Saying we wont know anything about the car until 2 years down the road is probably not accurate. The fa20 isn't a dramatic departure from anything in the past(and appears to simply be a stroked fa16). Besides the factory support, Subaru actually has aftermarket enthusiasts....

Reliability has almost the exact same history as the 370Z according to J. D. Powers. I think optimism has run amuck here! A 2012 small sports car that has virtually the same performance envelope of a 2004 small sports car for virtually the same price? Not that impressed...it's, however, very pretty.

This is akin to bringing out a 370Z with the same performance window as the 350Z and calling it a success! I do have faith that subaru will turbo theirs and at that point, it will be worth looking at.

Red__Zed · 01-13-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Reliability has almost the exact same history as the 370Z according to J. D. Powers. I think optimism has run amuck here! A 2012 small sports car that has virtually the same performance envelope of a 2004 small sports car for virtually the same price? Not that impressed...it's, however, very pretty.

This is akin to bringing out a 370Z with the same performance window as the 350Z and calling it a success! I do have faith that subaru will turbo theirs and at that point, it will be worth looking at.

Color me unimpressed about 370z reliability

You are right that you could buy a better car in 04. Hell, you could buy a better car in 99....you just have the wrong car in mind.

Lug · 01-13-2012, 11:53 AM

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Color me unimpressed about 370z reliability

You are right that you could buy a better car in 04. Hell, you could buy a better car in 99....you just have the wrong car in mind.

I'm calling them a virual tie at the same price. If you want sportscar reliability, think Mazda Miata. Why the doors alone guarantee that you will never have to ....fill in blank here....!

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