Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

ZMan8 · 04-05-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

dibs on mustang's used brz.

Isamu · 04-05-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I have no doubt it will be fun to drive but there's no way I'm paying that much for a car like that. I'd wait and buy used if I really wanted one.

but who knows, maybe once it's out and the aftermarket is cheap...

ZMan8 · 04-05-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

but who knows, maybe once it's out and the aftermarket is cheap...

aftermarket will be cheap because already they have more vendors lined up than the 370z has after 3 years out.

Isamu · 04-05-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

aftermarket will be cheap because already they have more vendors lined up than the 370z has after 3 years out.

I know this, I am one of them... lol

ZMan8 · 04-05-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

I know this, I am one of them... lol

what are you making

danny8787 · 04-05-2012, 03:43 PM

this car is not going to worth that much.... if you look at the number, but after actual driving, it might worth every penny.

Zaggeron · 04-05-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by danny8787

this car is not going to worth that much.... if you look at the number, but after actual driving, it might worth every penny.

That's what I'm hoping for.

edit: perhaps I should say: "That is what for which I am hoping"

damned prepositions ...

Zaggeron · 04-05-2012, 05:56 PM

Personally, as long as it is under 30K or so for a loaded BRZ limited, I'm fine with it. I'm not going to quibble over 1k or 1.5k.

If it really drives as well as the reviewers are saying, there really is nothing much like it at anywhere near that price point. People will bring up Genesis 2.0T and V6 Mustang and Camaro, but really those are all quite different cars. The "fun" factor is somewhat hard to quantify, but if it is present the car may well be worth much more than they are charging.

SPOHN · 04-05-2012, 06:02 PM

26K+ for 200hp. Yeaaa right. Then being limited the dealers will more than likey mark them up.

Zaggeron · 04-05-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

26K+ for 200hp. Yeaaa right. Then being limited the dealers will more than likey mark them up.

I think there is more to the value than the HP numbers. The last year the Lotus Elise was available in the states, the NA version had 189 HP but started in the mid 40Ks.

Now the BRZ does weigh 700lbs more than the Elise, but it is also 20K less.

SPOHN · 04-05-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I think there is more to the value than the HP numbers. The last year the Lotus Elise was available in the states, the NA version had 189 HP but started in the mid 40Ks.

Now the BRZ does weigh 700lbs more than the Elise, but it is also 20K less.

I understand your point. But I wouldn't buy either. Best value to benefit is going to be the 370 and EVO.

Zaggeron · 04-05-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I understand your point. But I wouldn't buy either. Best value to benefit is going to be the 370 and EVO.

Agree about the 370 being a great value -- but I already have one of those and I'm not looking for another sedan so the WRX and EVO are out.

SPOHN · 04-05-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Agree about the 370 being a great value -- but I already have one of those and I'm not looking for another sedan so the WRX and EVO are out.

That being the case, I'd go for it. I do like the car for what it is. It would be nice to see some boost thrown at it though.

ZMan8 · 04-05-2012, 06:19 PM

Lotus you also pay for luxury/brand name

bigsix · 04-09-2012, 10:59 PM

For what my opinion is worth:

I went to the Motor Show in Bangkok, Thailand last week to see a few new cars:

-the new 3-series
-new GS350 F-sport
- new 911
- and the Toyota 86.

I sat inside of the 86 and was really blown away. It seems like Toyota has spent years perfecting the driving position, seat, wheel...everything. It just felt perfect sitting inside there.

I didn't get to hear the engine, nor drive the car, but i was really impressed and excited. I think where both companies (Toyota & Subaru) are getting this car right is that it is the right car for this time. Small 4-cylinder engine, light-weight body, reasonable price.

I hope this will be a real treat to drive...

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Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 19	Personally, as long as it is under 30K or so for a loaded BRZ limited, I'm fine with it. I'm not going to quibble over 1k or 1.5k. If it really drives as well as the reviewers are saying, there really is nothing much like it at anywhere near that price point. People will bring up Genesis 2.0T and V6 Mustang and Camaro, but really those are all quite different cars. The "fun" factor is somewhat hard to quantify, but if it is present the car may well be worth much more than they are charging. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

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SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	26K+ for 200hp. Yeaaa right. Then being limited the dealers will more than likey mark them up. __________________

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danny8787 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NC Raleigh Posts: 36 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z CY M6 Rep Power: 14	this car is not going to worth that much.... if you look at the number, but after actual driving, it might worth every penny.

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