That's for this year. They are doing a limited run for 2015, then they are going to normal production for next year. :tup:

video was already pulled down. :shakes head:

GT350 mmmmmm :yum:

Watch the SS 1LE kick its ***. God damnit, Ford!

Ohhhhhhhh ok.... kool then :tup:

Naaah. Not unless the 1LE gets the Z06 engine. You heard about the Z06 suspension being 2 degrees off camber during the GT-R battle? That review was a major reaon for me negating the Z06. Its back on the map now.

Yup, I was mainly being facetious, but it would be hilarious.

The Z06 alignment... I knew something was wrong after the GT-R Nismo beat it so badly. Love that car. Riding in Daisuke's at zdayz was amazing. The brakes are INSANE.

Mainly, I just wanted to say that Ford disgusts me by making the mustang such a pig. When they get a sports car within 300 pounds of my 4-door AWD SUV...call me, lmao

Five battles 2016 Camaro must win - LimaOhio.com - limaohio.com

I always felt that at 54.2", The Chevy Camaro was too tall for a sports car and if i owned one? My goal would have been 52" ride height. Well the GOOD OLE ALPHA platform did not disappoint. I had mentioned the alpha looked like the seat was lower in the cockpit floor. Well my guess should be correct because the Camaro 6 is 1.2" lower than the outgoing Camaro 5 at 53". While still 1.6 inches taller than a Z34, the new camaro is low and getting a 1.5" drop shouldn't be any challenge. A 51.5" Camaro is so tempting with a Loud exhaust and dark tints.

The height, weight and proportions of the Camaro are perfect. Nissan needs to look at the Camaro proportions for the R36. While i love the GTR Aggressive styling. The cars proportions are too big for a performance car. Camaro hit a size sweet spot for a 4 seat coupe and am so excited to see this car in person. The new mustang seating position still needed improvement as the seating position mimicks a sporty sedan instead of a sports car. It had been my main gripe with mustang. The optional recaros were very comfy in the stang but still fail to provide that "one with the vehicle" feel while driving.
Theres no denying the Z seating position is the best in the price range. But i think Camaro will shock us. Camaro 5 seat position was real good. Recaros were excellent. In the Camaro. The new seating position should be next level shyt.

pretty cool camaro facts.,,
 

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The SS sounds so capable, im wondering what will they offer as a 1LE package. As the SS is totally track capable? Maybe more aggressive gear ratios and weight reduction with beefier tires?

Probably what they do now. Track oriented tire and suspension. Which should be pretty sick.

The SS will be track capable, sure, but it will be primarily focused on being a great road car. Add the 1LE if you want to get serious.

I think the Z28/ZL1 type variants are going to be insane.

dammit.


why am I liking this car more and more :shakes head:

must stay strong. lol

Yeah, but the current SS is nowhere near this track capable. Its pretty dramatic jump in capability from the camaro 5 to the camaro 6. The current 1LE has a ZL1 suspension. I guess we gonna have to wait and see what the next ZL1 will be spec'd like to figure out what improvements will trickle down to the 1LE package.

The next Z better be one DOPE ride because right now. I cant imagine putting $40k anywhere else. And at 53" ride height (1LE may be lowered to 52"?) This car will have or be capable of a dedicated sports car center of gravity? Its unreal for a muscle car to be this spec'd out. :driving:

:owned:

thought the article said the new Camaro is only 51.5"

You know what I mean, though. SS will be a little more plush and compliant on the street. 1LE will be a beast.

I remain unmoved until I see a return of the Firebird...

A '79 FB with a 6.6 V8 under the hood (after the crappy OEM 301 cu. in. V8 died) was my first true car-love and car-heartbreak.

Better come with a chicken on the hood!

No. I said we could Probanly get 51.5 aftermarket, easily

I think the SS will be a beast. The 1LE will be a beast on crack.... lol:excited:

i misread that my bad lol

It was early when I went through this all :tiphat:

I wonder when they will begin to announce anything about the 1LE and ZL1 updates :stirthepot:

So what about this Mustang GT350 starting at $47k?

Man the next Z is going to have to be done masterfully.

that's not a bad price for that car considering it's basically top of the mark for the mustang aside from the GT350R

There will be a GT500 that is rumored to be Hellcat levels, but nothing officially confirmed.

You still get 500+hp, IRS, Magnetic Suspension, and a couple other things for that money... you know... Nismo 370Z money.

Pricing on the Nismo 370Z is so wacky right now.

I think Nissan has two options:

1) Build a cheap BRZ Fighter
2) Build an expensive ($60k+?) Corvette (maybe?) fighter

I just don't think they can win the price wars with Chevy and Ford in the "mid-range" segment anymore.

Ladies and gents, the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 will be something of a bargain. Mustang6G has a leaked pricing sheet that indicates the base model will start at just $47,870, while the track-oriented R adds $13,500 to that price. Neither figure includes an $825 destination charge

so the R will be 60k roughly. sooo I was wrong 13k for thr track pack. 60k for a mustang is well beyond what it's worth lol

although I've been adopted into the Pittsburgh mustang club :bowrofl:

guess they wanted one sports car in their group :stirthepot:

yea everything is so odd anymore with where pricing has gone. Nissan is in a bad position currently with the next Z depending on their costs and what is added.

soooo what is the price point you all would pay for the next Z given a TT engine with 400hp and some options. I know some want zero options and some like me want Nav and nice seats lol

Give the Z TTV6, and price it around 50Kish, give it Recaro seats, adjustable shock damping, decent tech, and various engine maps for sport or comfort driving.

sold!

i'll take one in black or Monterey Blue :yum:

AT of course :tiphat:

How can they do that when they price the Nismo at damn near 50k right now? Knowing Nissan, what you describe would easily cost $60k+.

A couple years ago when the GT-R started going crazy in price from its original $75k-ish price point, I had a hair-brained idea that Nissan could insert a Skyline model in between the Z and GT-R and aim it at the M3 crowd (which is now populated by Cadillac with the V cars, Lexus with the RC-F, and BMW M3/M4).

While I'm the type of guy that can forego HP as a marketing tool and accept HP as part of a total package for a car (i.e. 400hp doesn't matter much if it's going to the front wheels ... just like 3800lbs in a GT-R doesn't tell the whole story about the car's capabilities), the Z has to produce around 500hp to get bumped up into the playground of the pony cars. It doesn't mean the current car is underpowered (I don't feel that it is) or that 400hp in the current platform wouldn't make for a sick car at $35k. It is making the Z successful in the market, which means the horsepower attribute for the car has to resonate to prospective buyers that aren't already part of the Z's cult following.

500hp gets casual sports car buyers' attention. 300hp doesn't. It used to, but the game has changed. (I hate saying that as a Z guy, but it's the truth - I never felt the Z needed 500hp to be a good car.) It boils down to this - Nissan is a business. Businesses must produce profits. The next Z must be more profitable than this one, and that means Nissan has to go where the market is.

That market is NOT the BRZ crowd - the car simply isn't selling anymore and there is no other competition in the segment. Nissan is left with a choice of testing that market in hopes that perhaps the few prospective BRZ buyers that are out there are waiting to see if Honda and/or Nissan will jump in with a car of there own, or they can cater to a segment that is selling cars hand-over-fist.

They could go to both segments - a new platform with different powertrain options. (This makes the most sense to me, but does Nissan have the balls to take a chance and do this?) This solves the "Y U NO CHEAP RWD" and "Y U NO HP" problems all at once (provided they get the latter done right). It's what the pony cars are doing as well. There's more to this strategy than catering to the two markets, however - it's about capturing repeat buyers. You offer a less expensive model to bring them in, and hopefully when that purchase is paid off, said buyer is in a better financial position to upgrade to the better model. The Mustang and Camaro are perfectly positioned for this - a low $20k entry model with various trims that go all the way to $70k. Nissan doesn't have this with its sports car lineup - instead, they're hoping you buy a Juke and upgrade to an Altima.

Anyway - diatribe over. I'm almost tired of waiting to see what happens next with Nissan after the flop that is the 2016 Maxima.

I will add to this talk that I have been told that the Z35 is pushed to MY17 at the earliest and the rumor of th3 4 banger turbo is just a rumor. looks like the base engine will be the 3.7 NA and the upgrade option is the 3.0L TT V6.

I think thats why the Z is getting a 2.0T with near 300hp and a 3.0TT v6 with approx 400hp. I think some key ideas that i came up with must happen. You know gimmicks sell a lot of these sports cars and gauges help the cars feel, well more racecar.

The all digtal 3 gauge pod with at least 6 configurable different gauges
Nissan needs to put high emphasis on a MEGA sound system separate of ANY packages
Recaro should have influence in even the standard seats.

From a mechanical standpoint

Nismo version must a serious corvette competitor.
Driving feel must really start to feel Porsche like.
KEEP THE HANDBRAKE
KEEP THE STEERING HYDRAULIC
Weight on the 400hp car shouldnt exceed 3000lbs
Look for a REAL LSD.

Aesthetically
Get the grille right.
Ergo ergo ergo
Lower the center of gravity one inch from the Z34
Lengthen the wheebase and widen car slightly.
240Z lithe hood design.

With current tech available, the Z can do it. But.....

:iagree:

but I added in a post above the last I heard is that the 4 banger idea is no longer a thought in the mixer but keeping the current VQ as a base option.

It makes no sense to use the VQ again. Its old and people dont want it in a pure sports car. If anything. It would make more sense to go back to the 3.5 and i hate to say it, but add hybrid tech as a torque booster. As the 3.5 was considered the better sports car engine and had a much nicer sound.

it's jut what I last heard. who knows if it's fact or fiction. nothing is concrete until they finally show the car and release any official info lol

Here is a question for you guys looking at maybe getting a Gen 6 Camaro...first year production? yes or no?
I know i'm not a fan of first year production, but all the parts for the Camaro, more or less have come out of the bin from other cars.
So thoughts?