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UNKNOWN_370 05-19-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3202323)
I'm in the same camp with everyone else. The more I see it the more I like it.

I feel like Ford tried to do too much to cater to both old and new buyer's tastes, whereas Chevy stuck with one theme and came out with a better flow to the design, better proportions, etc. Like UNKNOWN said, it will be interesting to see how they respond in the coming years. They have their work cut out for them as Chevy seems to be several steps ahead.

The interior tech offered also appears to be superior. Just compare the gauge clusters... way more modern than the Mustang.

Definitely want to check one out. I want to buy a C7, but if I needed a 2+2 I think I'd probably end up with a Camaro over a Mustang (pending a test drive, of course.)

I honestly think this is going to be an 8.5/10th vette if not a 9/10ths vette. I think the real difference in these cars will show at the limit on a complex track. I think on a moderate track, a potential 1LE package would be on par with the vette in most instances. I predict the camaro being the best bang for buck out of any car under $55k

As far as the Z goes, in another thread i mention my own wild speculations for a future Z? If those specs arent met? The Z will be a bigger sales disappointment than the Z34.

Chevy really did a role reversal putting america back on the map internationally. And if this C8 MR vette comes to fruition in 2017? It's going to be on.
Also, the Chevy sonic RS needs to get redesigned to be more aggressive and have power between a Fiesta STand a Focus ST with Fiesta weight and mod potential for high BOOST. With pricing right in between both. That would put the Sonic fitting perfectly in the hot hatch arena and chevy would even be a competitor there as well.

UNKNOWN_370 05-19-2015 09:19 PM

The widy body kit and racing stripe look murderous. I'm officially in love!!

http://www.camaro6.com/wp-content/up...r1-658x464.jpg

FPenvy 05-20-2015 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3203117)
The widy body kit and racing stripe look murderous. I'm officially in love!!

http://www.camaro6.com/wp-content/up...r1-658x464.jpg

:eek:

I actually really like that lol

damn you for showing me this.

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2015 10:01 AM

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May 19, 2015 - 11:30 am ET -- UPDATED: 5/20/15 9:43 am ET
Chevrolet, on the heels of the redesigned Ford Mustang, is bringing out a reskinned and re-engineered Camaro sports car for 2016, raising the ante in Detroit's pony car battle. Here's a look at what some journalists and analysts have to say about the latest Camaro.

"The new seating position is excellent, and the new lower dashboard helps with outward forward visibility. But the Camaro still makes you feel like you're sitting in a bunker, looking out of a gun slit. Ride and handling are outstanding, with the suspension able to soak up track imperfections with ease, while not disturbing either the steering or stability. The brakes feel much stronger as well. The 2015 model's brakes felt squishy and overworked after several laps with journalists at the wheel, but the 2016 model exhibited no fade or softness in the pedal."

-- Aaron Bragman, cars.com

"The Camaro rides on a platform that is significantly lighter than the one used before. You immediately feel this in every aspect of the new car's dynamics, whether you're punching the gas on a straightaway, or braking as hard as you can for a 90-degree corner. This is a smoother, more linear-feeling Camaro, one that doesn't have the heft of the previous model -- and is all the better for it."

-- Nick Kurczewski, New York Daily News

"Welcome to Golden Era II of the muscle car where Chevy, Ford, and Dodge are in a dog -- er, pony -- fight for segment supremacy not unlike the Big Three pickup wars. But where Dodge's ferocious, new, 707-horsepower Challenger Hellcat is the undisputed king of brawn, the Camaro and Mustang are exploring new frontiers for muscle car handling. Frontiers like race tracks -- traditionally venues reserved for introducing track-tuned, alphanumeric-badged beasts like a Z28 or GT500, not a base Camaro ... These aren't your grand-dad's '60s Dream Cruisers that sprinted like stallions from a stoplight but wallowed like pigs through the twisties. Handling? That used to be the stuff of small luxury sedans and sports cars. But with its 2015 Mustang, Ford transformed its pony's front and rear suspensions and leap-frogged the Camaro in handling. Aw, Ford, you just went and made Chevy mad. One year later, and Camaro has answered with a steed ... built on a small luxury sedan chassis. The same Alpha platform used by the sensational, best-in-class Cadillac ATS carving knife. By Turn 2 at Belle Isle, I knew the Gen-6 Camaro was a different animal."

-- Henry Payne, The Detroit News

"Leaner, lighter, faster, tighter -- whether or not you can tell from the pictures, the Chevrolet Camaro, Generation 6, lifts everything up a couple more pegs. It’s almost entirely new, and even before Chevy mentions a word about ZL1/Z28/1LE upgrades, the view from Ford HQ has to be formidable."

-- J.P. Vettraino, Autoweek



"One area where the Camaro hasn't been downsized is in stopping power. Four-piston Brembo brakes are available across the lineup, standard on the SS, and 18-inch Goodyear Eagle Sports are the base tires ... It's not short on glitz, either. The Camaro now has ambient lighting that can be linked to drive modes. There’s even a theatrical “car show” mode that cycles randomly through the entire color spectrum when the Camaro is parked."

-- Marty Padgett, Motor Authority

"More than 300 pounds lighter than the 2015 V6 Camaro, and with a new V6 that delivers more horsepower and torque, the 2016 Camaro lapped faster and easier than the car it replaces. It promises to surprise Mustang and Challenger owners when it goes on sale in the fourth quarter, giving Chevy a strong new performance model."

-- Mark Phelan, Detroit Free Press

"The four-seat interior retains a dual-binnacle design, although the buttons and assorted brightwork appear more polished than the chintzy controls in the outgoing model. Chevrolet promises better-quality materials throughout; based on the current Camaro, that seems nearly unavoidable. There are two eight-inch color screens: one providing key driving information in the instrument cluster, while the other serves as the interface for the latest MyLink infotainment system. The manual emergency brake is replaced by a more space-efficient electronic parking brake. But the dash vents got pushed way low on the console. An LED ambient light system offers 24 different colors, reminding of personalization that Mustang has offered in recent years."

-- Jeff Bartlett, Consumer Reports



"It's interesting that GM chose to debut the Camaro on the warped surfaces of the ride-and-handling loop rather than, say, on the nearby Lutzring road course. What they're saying is that thing is going to work in the real world (they hope). I can now attest that no Camaro ever soaked up a mid-corner bump like this one does -- an impression cemented by a back-to-back drive with the 2015 model. The outgoing car didn't feel thoroughly discombobulated, mind you, but the new one was just that much more graceful. (Yes, a Camaro. Graceful.) On the big hits, the 2016's suspension wasn't visiting the limits of its bump stops like the 2015 model did, and diabolical chatter bumps didn't send it skittering toward the shoulder. Also, that exhaust cutout sounds nice. The 3.6-liter V6 tends to be vocal anyway, so you may as well uncork it."

-- Ezra Dyer, Popular Mechanics

"Small, powerful four-cylinders are the future in pony cars and other sporty cars. Ford reintroduced one to its Mustang lineup with the current generation model in 2014, and four-cylinder turbo motors also power sport sedans such as the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. That gives the Camaro team at General Motors the confidence that its new 2.0 liter engine -- a modified version of what goes into a small Cadillac sports sedan -- will be popular ... The new styling features traditional Camaro design language, including the grille and headlight aperture that stretches across the entire width of the car. The smaller car gives the impression of a wider, more athletic stance, enhanced by a long snout, low roofline and short rear deck. The new architecture gave GM engineers the opportunity to address one of the criticisms of the current model -- it is a tad bloated."

-- Jerry Hirsch, Los Angeles Times

MagmaRed370z 05-20-2015 10:11 AM

Im with everybody here. Its growing on me every time I look at it (mostly the interior).

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:12 AM

I still can't stop looking at that rendering with the widebody lol

I mean do away with the gay riveting and its pretty sexy.

TerribleONE 05-20-2015 10:13 AM

That widebody is legit!

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2015 10:15 AM

[B]Brembos Across The Line-up Fellaz!!!!

There's NO COMP for the Camaro!!! I'm in one... lol[/B
]

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3203739)
[B]Brembos Across The Line-up Fellaz!!!!

There's NO COMP for the Camaro!!! I'm in one... lol[/B
]

did the mustang finally decide to up the brakes and put something better on the rears? or is it still nice brembos up front and iron turds in the rear?

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203753)
did the mustang finally decide to up the brakes and put something better on the rears? or is it still nice brembos up front and iron turds in the rear?

The fastest guy at ZDayZ runs iron turds all around...

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:36 AM

Brembos across the board makes sense, though. On a per unit basis everything must be cheaper if you just use the same **** on every car.

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203779)
The fastest guy at ZDayZ runs iron turds all around...

didn't see it. didn't happen lol

with super pads and fluid anything works fine.

it's an aesthetic thing for me. mustang nice fronts then wtf on the rear. why pay for the BBK option when you only get 2 of 4.

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203785)
didn't see it. didn't happen lol

with super pads and fluid anything works fine.

it's an aesthetic thing for me. mustang nice fronts then wtf on the rear. why pay for the BBK option when you only get 2 of 4.

Both statements are true. :driving:

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:41 AM

(add cooling for 370Z calipers... they heat soak like a ************.)

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203789)
Both statements are true. :driving:

I don't always post factual info, but when I do, I double down on them bitches

:bowrofl:

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203790)
(add cooling for 370Z calipers... they heat soak like a ************.)

did you see the youtube video of dodges SRT 6 pistons fit on the 370 with just a small bit of shaving/widening the mounting holes?

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203795)
did you see the youtube video of dodges SRT 6 pistons fit on the 370 with just a small bit of shaving/widening the mounting holes?

I did not!

Red__Zed 05-20-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3203739)
[B]Brembos Across The Line-up Fellaz!!!!

There's NO COMP for the Camaro!!! I'm in one... lol[/B
]

It's a good move if true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203779)
The fastest guy at ZDayZ runs iron turds all around...

Most of ZdayZ is high stakes autocross

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203798)
I did not!

I lied. I was drunk. it was pat showing me they fit to the 300ZX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXhRe6tiZAM

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 3203803)
It's a good move if true.



Most of ZdayZ is high stakes autocross

Which is why I think I need to bite the bullet and overcome my fear of orange cones. Need to get on the good side of the 10 minute range.

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203808)
I lied. I was drunk. it was pat showing me they fit to the 300ZX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXhRe6tiZAM

I accept your excuse.

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203810)
I accept your excuse.

.....because zdayz? lol

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203814)
.....because zdayz? lol

I am having some serious alcohol withdrawals. You have to ween yourself off of the bourbon... can't just quit cold turkey. There's also some citron and monster drink I was introduced too... oh god.

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203816)
I am having some serious alcohol withdrawals. You have to ween yourself off of the bourbon... can't just quit cold turkey. There's also some citron and monster drink I was introduced too... oh god.

I haven't had drink yet lol I think after my long term stint of alcoholism I can do the ups and downs decently now lol

also one of my favorite mixed drinks I came up with when bartending was red berry ciroc, cranberry, and a splash of sprite. tastes like gushers lol

that or for maximum effect - 151, cherry vodka, little bit of coke. tastes like cherry coke and bad decisions.

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203822)
I haven't had drink yet lol I think after my long term stint of alcoholism I can do the ups and downs decently now lol

also one of my favorite mixed drinks I came up with when bartending was red berry ciroc, cranberry, and a splash of sprite. tastes like gushers lol

that or for maximum effect - 151, cherry vodka, little bit of coke. tastes like cherry coke and bad decisions.

Well I know what I'm doing this weekend. :happydance:

FPenvy 05-20-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203825)
Well I know what I'm doing this weekend. :happydance:

:tiphat:

have some of those, get drunk, then order a new C7 or Camaro. win win.

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203827)
:tiphat:

have some of those, get drunk, then order a new C7 or Camaro. win win.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/62236619.jpg

FPenvy 05-20-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203830)

whichever you don't want i'll take off your hands at wholesale :stirthepot:

plus a blowie.

:tiphat:

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203831)
whichever you don't want i'll take off your hands at wholesale :stirthepot:

plus a blowie.

:tiphat:

Do I blow you or do you blow me?

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/62236619.jpg

FPenvy 05-20-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203832)
Do I blow you or do you blow me?

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/62236619.jpg

:icon18:

on my way :driving:

Red__Zed 05-20-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3203809)
Which is why I think I need to bite the bullet and overcome my fear of orange cones. Need to get on the good side of the 10 minute range.

If we'd been autocrossing instead of on hellbender, you'd just have hit a come and scared some volunteers

GM_Traitor3.5 05-20-2015 12:06 PM

If the interior room still sucks in the 6th gen, I'm gonna be pissed. Both in exterior and interior are really growing on me the more I see them. But sports cars and 6'5" height aren't really a good combo. :(

Red__Zed 05-20-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 3203891)
If the interior room still sucks in the 6th gen, I'm gonna be pissed. Both in exterior and interior are really growing on me the more I see them. But sports cars and 6'5" height aren't really a good combo. :(

That's why the c7 has a targa top

DCNISMO 05-20-2015 12:57 PM

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But sports cars and 6'5" height aren't really a good combo.
You can fit just fine in a 911, least a 997 for sure. I'm almost that tall and I have plenty of head and leg room in my C4S.

GM_Traitor3.5 05-20-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3203963)
You can fit just fine in a 911, least a 997 for sure. I'm almost that tall and I have plenty of head and leg room in my C4S.

I'm sure I could. But I'm poor lol

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3203963)
You can fit just fine in a 911, least a 997 for sure. I'm almost that tall and I have plenty of head and leg room in my C4S.

That was the first car that came to mind. Try a used M3 or C63. The Germans make cars for TALL people

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3203822)
I haven't had drink yet lol I think after my long term stint of alcoholism I can do the ups and downs decently now lol

also one of my favorite mixed drinks I came up with when bartending was red berry ciroc, cranberry, and a splash of sprite. tastes like gushers lol

that or for maximum effect - 151, cherry vodka, little bit of coke. tastes like cherry coke and bad decisions.


Real nice FP... you promoting dinking in a forum about driving. :shakes head:

lol:tup:

m4a1mustang 05-20-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3204251)
That was the first car that came to mind. Try a used M3 or C63. The Germans make cars for TALL people

Jay wouldn't be caught dead in a German car. He's a Murrican boy. :roflpuke2:

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2015 05:27 PM

Damn, i'm starting to think Z06 automatic stage 2 and manual SS1LE as the pair?

UNKNOWN_370 05-21-2015 09:58 AM

2016 Ford Shelby GT350 Mustang | Engine sound video | Digital Trends

I dont see how the GT350 will even compete when Ford said they are making 63 Gt350 and 37 gt350r. That means its an unattainable excluive car with common Z06 performance. And we still havent seen the gen 6 Z28.


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