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Old 06-29-2014, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not shocked. I'm in that 10% group that was not impressed with the Toyobaru Twins from day one media hype and was less inspired after the FR-S test drive. Subaru expected me to buy one, then test drive. Being that I had to ream this engine out for it to feel just barely fun was the deal-breaker.
They say this car is awesome on the track... I don't know cuz I only had 30 min of street time in the FR-S. But I can assure you they left all the fun for track duty as this well-balanced chassis snoozes along the public road. There's just nothing there unless you floor it right off the line. Do that 3x at each light and lose a third of your tank.
Subaru's mistake. Having no plans to FI this car. Now it's possibly abandoning what was a 3+ year project with Toyota. So Subaru, abandoning this car instead of adding FI and a BBK is about as smart as...
1. Your big buy before test drive policy.
2. Your unrealistic BRZ msrp for a rwd with anemic engine.
3. Adding a wacky-doo CVT to the WRX instead of a JATCO 7AT copy or DCT.

Way to go subie. Awesome business strategy. Lol
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I'm not shocked. I'm in that 10% group that was not impressed with the Toyobaru Twins from day one media hype and was less inspired after the FR-S test drive. Subaru expected me to buy one, then test drive. Being that I had to ream this engine out for it to feel just barely fun was the deal-breaker.
They say this car is awesome on the track... I don't know cuz I only had 30 min of street time in the FR-S. But I can assure you they left all the fun for track duty as this well-balanced chassis snoozes along the public road. There's just nothing there unless you floor it right off the line. Do that 3x at each light and lose a third of your tank.
Subaru's mistake. Having no plans to FI this car. Now it's possibly abandoning what was a 3+ year project with Toyota. So Subaru, abandoning this car instead of adding FI and a BBK is about as smart as...
1. Your big buy before test drive policy.
2. Your unrealistic BRZ msrp for a rwd with anemic engine.
3. Adding a wacky-doo CVT to the WRX instead of a JATCO 7AT copy or DCT.

Way to go subie. Awesome business strategy. Lol
I'm willing to bet the head cheeses over at Subaru know a bit more about business strategy than you.
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The Subaru BRZ May Be No More! – Insider Car News

I'm not shocked. I'm in that 10% group that was not impressed with the Toyobaru Twins from day one media hype and was less inspired after the FR-S test drive. Subaru expected me to buy one, then test drive. Being that I had to ream this engine out for it to feel just barely fun was the deal-breaker.
They say this car is awesome on the track... I don't know cuz I only had 30 min of street time in the FR-S. But I can assure you they left all the fun for track duty as this well-balanced chassis snoozes along the public road. There's just nothing there unless you floor it right off the line. Do that 3x at each light and lose a third of your tank.
Subaru's mistake. Having no plans to FI this car. Now it's possibly abandoning what was a 3+ year project with Toyota. So Subaru, abandoning this car instead of adding FI and a BBK is about as smart as...
1. Your big buy before test drive policy.
2. Your unrealistic BRZ msrp for a rwd with anemic engine.
3. Adding a wacky-doo CVT to the WRX instead of a JATCO 7AT copy or DCT.

Way to go subie. Awesome business strategy. Lol

actually the way i heard it, subaru is getting screwed over basically by toyota as there is talks of toyota teaming up with BMW on all future sports cars thus leaving Subaru high and dry

edit: just read your linked article and it even states in there that toyota is basically abandoning subaru...not really sure where you got the idea that it was subaru's decision to end the BRZ
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Yeah but they have just as much right to the chassis as toyota. everyone wants to see this vehicle evolve into something greater. Toyota is going to focus on that Supra. My guess, at best BMW will contribute a better interior and electronic steering.
Subaru just needs to add forced induction get this car to about 280hp. Sell it around $33,000 and keep it real to the fans that waited 3 plus years for the twins. Give test drives so people can gain an interest and they can increase their sales.
the car feels fast only when revving the hell out the low gears, but it handles great. It just needs a great engine. FI will solve this cars problems. Oh and pluck that cvt out the WRX. Please?!

Good business is evolving a good & popular enthusiast platform into a great one. This car didnt impress me. But the list to make it impressive is short.

All that hype and...
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Yeah, the next toyota sports car will likely be with bmw.

I like the brz, but I think the wrx is their performance star
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Hopefully something better replaces it, tired of the frs/brz fanboys acting like its a lambo though. Especially with how cheap they start off in price and even cheaper used and pretty much for free when salvaged. They're popping up all over socal. I predict the frs/brz will be the new civic/integras/miatas of our generation. In that it will be cheap to buy used, and have a good market to mod. Car looks really nice I will admit, but underpowered. I read some guys comment on another forum and it stuck in my head, he said :

" These cars are underpowered buzz bombs with low end interiors, and handle no better than an otherwise bone stock '82 Z28 equipped with comparable wheels and rubber. The handling aspect is actually a compliment, though that level of handling was much more impressive 32 years ago than it is today."
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All that hype and...
sadness when a camry blows past your brz/frs "sports car". lol
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sadness when a camry blows past your brz/frs "sports car". lol
Or when your track times tied with a $26,000 FWD Civic.
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Or when your track times tied with a $26,000 FWD Civic.
but jokes aside, honda knows how to make FWD cars. im not surprised they can make a civic that can take on a brz.

honestly with the civic-r, i would be pretty nervous if there was one tailing me in my Z going through a touge, especially downhill.
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Yeah, the next toyota sports car will likely be with bmw.

I like the brz, but I think the wrx is their performance star
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Yeah but they have just as much right to the chassis as toyota. everyone wants to see this vehicle evolve into something greater. Toyota is going to focus on that Supra. My guess, at best BMW will contribute a better interior and electronic steering.
Subaru just needs to add forced induction get this car to about 280hp. Sell it around $33,000 and keep it real to the fans that waited 3 plus years for the twins. Give test drives so people can gain an interest and they can increase their sales.
the car feels fast only when revving the hell out the low gears, but it handles great. It just needs a great engine. FI will solve this cars problems. Oh and pluck that cvt out the WRX. Please?!

Good business is evolving a good & popular enthusiast platform into a great one. This car didnt impress me. But the list to make it impressive is short.

All that hype and...

you have to realize too though that one of the reasons they teamed up in the first place was to offset costs, without toyota in the picture and subaru being the much smaller company that it is i doubt they would have the finances to continue making the BRZ or even upgrading it for that matter. that is my take anyway on why they would choose to discontinue the BRZ as it doesnt sell that well anyway to begin with, barely above what the 370Z sells each year, but again...Nissan is a much larger company that can afford to take the hit and make up for it in other areas.
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Since when do they try to make you buy before test driving? I had no issues test driving one when I was shopping for my Z.

However I totally agree with the power.... Felt about as fast as my '99 Camry lol
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