Motortrend: Z/28 vs 911 Turbo S vs GTR

[TaylorRyan370]

Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs. Porsche 911 Turbo S vs. Nissan GT-R Comparison - Motor Trend

Domestics beating Imports at their own game... for a fraction of the cost at that

[DEpointfive0]

I'm all for , but I smell

[Firebase99]

Yea....what DE said. A Camaro besting a GTR AND Turbo S???? Folks are stoned at Motor Trend. Reminds me of an old article about the 350Z and RX8 going at it in 2004. The Z made a mockery of the Mazda in EVERY performance test they did. Complete domination but MT awarded the 8 the better car due to a backseat and basically driving comfort...wtf?

[Chuck33079]

So the purpose-built track slut on damn near race tires beat the two street cars on street tires? And people are surprised? These magazines need to have a spec tire they put all their test cars on.

[DEpointfive0]

Originally Posted by Firebase99

Yea....what DE said. A Camaro besting a GTR AND Turbo S???? Folks are stoned at Motor Trend. Reminds me of an old article about the 350Z and RX8 going at it in 2004. The Z made a mockery of the Mazda in EVERY performance test they did. Complete domination but MT awarded the 8 the better car due to a backseat and basically driving comfort...wtf?

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

So the purpose-built track slut on damn near race tires beat the two street cars on street tires? And people are surprised? These magazines need to have a spec tire they put all their test cars on.

AND in the rain... I just don't see it happening

[DR_]

Pretty impressive but a $75k Camaro???

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by DR_

Pretty impressive but a $75k Camaro???

but a $75k Camaro with no A/C or sound system. You better have a second sports car for you to drive around in town during summer cuz this one will get you from point A to point B sweaty as hell and you have to tailgate a car with window down and volume on high.

[Z_ealot]

Not to mention in that comparison every domestic fanboy just seems to gloss over the fact that the gtr slaughtered the z28 in the 0 to 60 and quarter mile...not to mention they are comparing an all out track focused car to a regular street version gtr when they should be putting it against the nismo gtr which will also be an all out track focused car including the tires

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by Z_ealot

Not to mention in that comparison every domestic fanboy just seems to gloss over the fact that the gtr slaughtered the z28 in the 0 to 60 and quarter mile...not to mention they are comparing an all out track focused car to a regular street version gtr when they should be putting it against the nismo gtr which will also be an all out track focused car including the tires

To be fair though. The base GT-R IS still 30k more expensive than a fully modded from factory camaro.

[Chuck33079]

GM also has a much larger ad budget than Nissan or Porsche, so there's no surprise that their new car won.

[bdavis89]

Originally Posted by DR_

Pretty impressive but a $75k Camaro???

This is what gets me. Sure, the Camaro is faster, but what you rather have? A GTR/Porsche, or a $75k version of what the high school kid next door drives?

[b15]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

This is what gets me. Sure, the Camaro is faster, but what you rather have? A GTR/Porsche, or a $75k version of what the high school kid next door drives?

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[DEpointfive0]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

This is what gets me. Sure, the Camaro is faster, but what you rather have? A GTR/Porsche, or a $75k version of what the high school kid next door drives?

Just as bad as the $200k version of what my neighbor's mom has (Porch 911 base)

[b15]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Just as bad as the $200k version of what my neighbor's mom has (Porch 911 base)

Not at all. A 911 base is still an $80k car with a nice interior (and exterior if you like Porsche design. I don't though). It still has the Porsche characteristics and can still handle. A Camaro base can be had for what? $20k? Your choice of garbage interior or garbage exterior, Buick inspired handling and found on driveways of high school teenagers and rental car lots.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by b15

Not at all. A 911 base is still an $80k car with a nice interior (and exterior if you like Porsche design. I don't though). It still has the Porsche characteristics and can still handle. A Camaro base can be had for what? $20k? Your choice of garbage interior or garbage exterior, Buick inspired handling and found on driveways of high school teenagers and rental car lots.

Even at that, the argument is iffy. It's like refusing to buy an evo because it's a lancer. The z28 is a different animal from the base v6. They look similar, but they're entirely different in terms of performance.