toyota FT-1 concept (possibly next Supra)

Wonka2581 · 01-14-2014, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I don't think we have a chance of this car being in the Z range. Inflation puts the 98 Supra cost close to 70k currently. That is if I remember correctly and they were around 50k for the TT version.

My guess is 80-90k.

I beg to differ sir, I just got a barn find oem turbo supra that runs and drives for

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I think it will be priced in the lower to mid 40s. Ask Andrew he still hates me for it.

Wonka2581 · 01-14-2014, 07:02 AM

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Shadezz · 01-14-2014, 08:49 AM

We'll...maybe if I call toyota and ask if I can we can do some "group buy deposits" LOL to get the production started? 25k down now let's get this started!!! Still got love for the Z, but oh my the supra concept has got me hooked.

1. Shadezz

Rockhound · 01-14-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

I beg to differ sir, I just got a barn find oem turbo supra that runs and drives for $3.000.00
I think it will be priced in the lower to mid 40s. Ask Andrew he still hates me for it.

To be fair, he was referencing the then-new MSRP of the 1998 Supra adjusted for inflation, which makes it a nearly $70k car in today's dollars. Not what a 16 year old used examples sells for. How could that be used to estimate the new model's MSRP?

Or did I miss the sarcasm font?

Z_ealot · 01-14-2014, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound

To be fair, he was referencing the then-new MSRP of the 1998 Supra adjusted for inflation, which makes it a nearly $70k car in today's dollars. Not what a 16 year old used examples sells for. How could that be used to estimate the new model's MSRP?

Or did I miss the sarcasm font?

well then if we're going to go by that example then the Z should be even more expensive seeing as the 300zx turbo was going for $50k before they stopped production, so by all accounts the 370 should be in the $100k ballpark going off inflation

Firebase99 · 01-14-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I see elements of that (really, classic sports car lines) and also of F1-esque exotics. The rear deck is very last gen Supra, and you can definitely see styling cues from the FT-HS concept from a few years ago.

I expect some the areo will be lost in translation -- but that's okay. This belongs in the Z range of price, not the GT-R.

Hell, the LF-A doesn't exactly run rings around the GT-R, and it costs 5 times as much.

I'm hoping Toyota will keep this as a Nissan Z fighter -- and I for one would certainly strongly consider it as an alternative.

And as a bonus

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+11 Im back to loathing the Twins.

Rockhound · 01-14-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

well then if we're going to go by that example then the Z should be even more expensive seeing as the 300zx turbo was going for $50k before they stopped production, so by all accounts the 370 should be in the $100k ballpark going off inflation

Well, $50k in 1996 is approximately $72k adjusted to today's dollars, so using that logic the 370Z would be $70k, too, not sure where the $100k comes from.

Look, I didn't say it was an infallible method, I was just explaining his logic - this example happens to come with a significant currency valuation overprint as the yen reached a peak against the dollar in 1995. This is what really caused the low-volume Japanese car price hike in the mid-90s.

Otherwise, for domestic goods, car prices have been fairly well behaved, although they have risen slightly compared to inflation. For example, my dad purchased a new base Camaro in 1972 for about $3500, IIRC. In today's dollars that's about $19k. A base Camaro today stickers for $24 (invoice $22.6k) but you get a whole lot more car for the $3 to $5k increase.

NissanFan · 01-14-2014, 11:54 AM

i remember the days when a loaf of bread was $0.18...

Nismodean · 01-14-2014, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Anyone notice the Nissan Inspired foglight?. :/

I'll take a pound of that cheese.

And the ENTIRE outer lines of the cockpit AND the hood line of the Nismo! Take a side view and see for yourself. Basically they took the entire upper lines of the Nismo (minus the rear) and planted it on that thing.

Z_ealot · 01-14-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound

Well, $50k in 1996 is approximately $72k adjusted to today's dollars, so using that logic the 370Z would be $70k, too, not sure where the $100k comes from.

Look, I didn't say it was an infallible method, I was just explaining his logic - this example happens to come with a significant currency valuation overprint as the yen reached a peak against the dollar in 1995. This is what really caused the low-volume Japanese car price hike in the mid-90s.

Otherwise, for domestic goods, car prices have been fairly well behaved, although they have risen slightly compared to inflation. For example, my dad purchased a new base Camaro in 1972 for about $3500, IIRC. In today's dollars that's about $19k. A base Camaro today stickers for $24 (invoice $22.6k) but you get a whole lot more car for the $3 to $5k increase.

And I'm not faulting you for it either, just merely reinforcing what you already said which is to say it's pointless comparing the old model to the potentially new one

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-14-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz

I read that the Toyota CEO (who is himself a race car driver) drove the concept car on Gran Turismo 6, which is apparently where the concept came from. When he beat his own Personal best on fuji speedway (in an LFA) with the video game, he OK'd production of the concept. Word is the car doesn't even have an engine in it, it is just a shell.
I guess it was thrown out there, and accomplished its main purpose.....Getting people to say "Toyota"

They will make run with an frs engine.

sunkist350z · 01-14-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSpeedDemon

Love it. Although with that roofline, haunches and profile I can't help feeling like this is what the next RX-7 should look like.

+1

Toyota please build it and take my money!

TerribleONE · 01-14-2014, 05:25 PM

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I hope you bought that. I am truly jealous

Tazicon · 01-14-2014, 05:52 PM

So what, instead of working with Subaru they started working with Alfa Romeo?

forza370z · 01-14-2014, 11:44 PM

It's already in the GT6. This is how much it will cost probably. No a 370z price range, not a gtr price range. Not even close... It's similar to a LF-A. Lol

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