Car Dealers Really rip you off !!!

Shamu · 04-12-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT

Wow, news flash! This should be on the front page of CNN!!

Really car dealers try to rip off consumers? There should be a Federal investigation commissioned by Obama administration to look into this terrible incident.

Gosh next thing we might hear are that credit card companies charge some people way too much interest! Or that some plumbers rip people off? What's the world coming to?

cptspeed · 03-29-2013, 05:15 PM

I would be such a good car salesman. The problem is that I couldn't manipulate or lie to people. The problem with car buying is the lack of transparency.

asdfsammich · 03-29-2013, 05:25 PM

I agree.

You'd make for a great "stereotypical" car salesman.

I base that on how you're making hardly any sense at all. It's perfect!

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SS_Firehawk · 03-29-2013, 05:33 PM

Haha, it's temporary, I'm not doing an overseas contract gig again unless it's somewhere other than a war zone of crap country.

1st · 03-29-2013, 05:39 PM

Car dealers attempt to rip you off.

shadoquad · 03-29-2013, 05:47 PM

It is their job to profit. It is the informed consumer's job to step them down on price and not be bullied.

gsxr750 · 03-29-2013, 06:02 PM

I got a good deal at $5500 for the Sentra, with tax credit its about $6k, if I sold it on craigslist, it might bring $6K - $6.5K .

The Asian family that bought the car was probably taken advantage of as their English wasn't that good and it is common for dealers to really rip off minorities and women that don't know any better.

asdfsammich · 03-29-2013, 06:15 PM

LMAO. Tell me more.

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tonybui · 03-29-2013, 07:13 PM

Some Asian older people I know are hard working people, came to the country with very little English and a completely new way of life. Well, they need a car to get around and being unfamiliar with how stealerships are, they usually get rip off.
For me, I do my research, walk in and ask for a price. Either give me yes or no, don't give me that crap where you have to talk to a manager. Man, I hate the process of buying a car

ImportConvert · 03-30-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

I thought it might be interesting to share your bad experience buying or selling a car thru a dealer.

We just traded our 2005 Sentra SE 1.8 L with 78k miles on it and 5 yrs. spent in NY winters and 3 in Nevada, basically traded it on a loaded 2013 accord sedan.

We got $5500 trade in for it and got the 2013 Accord at invoice.

About a week later we are at the dog park and we see an Asian family pull up in our old car , I told him it was my old car and asked how much he paid for it.

He said he paid $11,400 for the car OTD with extended warranty. I know the dealer listed the car for 1 day at $8999 and it sold quick.

I didn't have the heart to tell him we only paid $12,500 for it 8 yrs. ago, just goes to show you how they a dealer will really rip someone off.

$6000-$7500 would have been more appropriate price for the old sentra.

-I bought my 2001 WS.6 in 2007 for $13K +TTL. 72K on the odo.
-I traded it in in 2010 with 149K on the odo, a blown AC compressor, paint peeling off the hood, and took a trade vehicle instead of $7500 cash I was offered.
-They listed the car for $13,999 when I drove by a few weeks later (hood re-painted, AC fixed).
-They sold it for $8,XXX according to a sales rep there.

KERMIT · 03-30-2013, 12:19 PM

95% of people think negotiation is acting tough and throwing out unreasonable claims/prices/etc...

So many have so much to learn...

shadoquad · 03-30-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT

95% of people think negotiation is acting tough and throwing out unreasonable claims/prices/etc...

So many have so much to learn...

I wouldn't say you act tough, but you cannot be a doormat either. When you waffle or lose focus, cost will increase.

It is not unreasonable toughness, it is vigilance and strength.

If you claim that salesmen do not use underhanded tactics to bilk you out of extra cash, then I'm afraid we'll have to disagree.

mfeinst · 03-30-2013, 12:38 PM

Negotiation is all about reservation price, aspiration price, and zone of possible agreement, as well as each party's alternative to a negotiated agreement.

marty31 · 04-09-2013, 02:27 AM

There is only one position of negotiation. Knee on the chest and knife at the throat.

zefaulter · 04-09-2013, 05:13 AM

I hate dealership, I've been ripped off plenty but I now know they can't be trusted one bit no matter what.
When I bought my Z I ended up suing them and got most of my money back, over $10k, don't ask. That's me going in educated.

03-29-2013, 05:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	I would be such a good car salesman. The problem is that I couldn't manipulate or lie to people. The problem with car buying is the lack of transparency. __________________ FI CBE, 20" forged specialties rims, swift springs, boston subs, kicker amp, focal components

03-29-2013, 05:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7336	Haha, it's temporary, I'm not doing an overseas contract gig again unless it's somewhere other than a war zone of crap country. Haboob likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

03-29-2013, 05:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,710 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1617	Correction Car dealers attempt to rip you off.

03-29-2013, 07:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
tonybui A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,397 Drives: 09 Sports 6 Speed Rep Power: 429	Some Asian older people I know are hard working people, came to the country with very little English and a completely new way of life. Well, they need a car to get around and being unfamiliar with how stealerships are, they usually get rip off. For me, I do my research, walk in and ask for a price. Either give me yes or no, don't give me that crap where you have to talk to a manager. Man, I hate the process of buying a car __________________ Evo-R CF fang \| CF Mirror covers \| 20/25 H&R spacers \| RE-11 \| TopSpeed exhaust + y-pipe \| Stillen HFC \| Carbon Fiber Amuse rear bumper + Amuse Spoiler \| PWJDM

03-30-2013, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
KERMIT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Republic of Wadiya Posts: 301 Drives: Ms. Daisy Rep Power: 15	95% of people think negotiation is acting tough and throwing out unreasonable claims/prices/etc... So many have so much to learn... __________________ Steering wheel with Z emblem, keyless entry, 3.7L with dual overhead cams, am/fm radio, ABS brakes, windshield, air in tires

03-29-2013, 05:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 15	I agree. You'd make for a great "stereotypical" car salesman. I base that on how you're making hardly any sense at all. It's perfect! Tapatalk2 ...

03-29-2013, 05:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	It is their job to profit. It is the informed consumer's job to step them down on price and not be bullied.

03-29-2013, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	I got a good deal at $5500 for the Sentra, with tax credit its about $6k, if I sold it on craigslist, it might bring $6K - $6.5K . The Asian family that bought the car was probably taken advantage of as their English wasn't that good and it is common for dealers to really rip off minorities and women that don't know any better.

03-29-2013, 06:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 15	LMAO. Tell me more. Tapatalk2 ...

03-30-2013, 12:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
mfeinst Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Greater Philly Area Posts: 272 Drives: Mercedes C43 AMG Rep Power: 15	Negotiation is all about reservation price, aspiration price, and zone of possible agreement, as well as each party's alternative to a negotiated agreement. __________________ F.I. TT Kit -- GT2860RS [500rwhp/449ft-lbs @ 9psi][/B][/I] CAR SOLD...

04-09-2013, 02:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
marty31 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 75 Drives: 19 Camaro ZL1 A10 Rep Power: 25	There is only one position of negotiation. Knee on the chest and knife at the throat. SoCalBoy likes this.

04-09-2013, 05:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
zefaulter A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,983 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 29	I hate dealership, I've been ripped off plenty but I now know they can't be trusted one bit no matter what. When I bought my Z I ended up suing them and got most of my money back, over $10k, don't ask. That's me going in educated.

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