2014 camaro Z/28

StangerGT · 03-28-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

Didn't say they weren't all I stated was that the LS7s had issues early on. I am sure you can build the engine for boost. There are builds with 700-800 rwhp with no issues reported.

This is what I was talking about. It was an issue with the LS7 early on. Given over the years of development I would hope the primary issues have been fixed. Still there is a reason why they chose to supercharge the LS3 for the ZR1 and not the LS7 due to it having thinner cylinder walls. Reliablity issues.

I wasn't trying to get this off topic was just replying to boosting it. I like the direction Chevy is going with the Camaro similar to what Ford has done with the Mustang. For the track I would go with this Z28. It's going to get even better when they get to the ATS chassis. Even lighter weight.

The LS7 is probubly the best option for track use. An N/A setup is reliable and doesnt produce the same kind of heat. which is probubly why they stuck it in the z28. And if i recall the VQ motor had its issues early on as well...

bigdog1250 · 03-28-2013, 10:01 AM

This car is a monster. Chevy is doing things right. They definitely deserve a round of applause for this.

The only thing I'm scratching my head on is the lack of Xenon lights. I'd take the extra few pounds to have those. Perhaps it will be an option though, we'll see.

m4a1mustang · 03-28-2013, 10:09 AM

My guess is they feel it's not necessary on a track-oriented car.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-28-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

Only issue with going FI on the new Z28 is the use of the LS7. This could prove to be problematic if you are not happy with its NA numbers. The LS7 has thin cylinder walls and high compression. Not good at all for boost since they are prone to blowing up stock. There is a reason why they supercharged an LS3 and called it an LS9 and put it in the ZR1.

Your first post, you made it sound like the Z06 is still blowing engines and is not capable of holding boost... period. No mention of early on.

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

Didn't say they weren't all I stated was that the LS7s had issues early on. I am sure you can build the engine for boost. There are builds with 700-800 rwhp with no issues reported.

This is what I was talking about. It was an issue with the LS7 early on. Given over the years of development I would hope the primary issues have been fixed. Still there is a reason why they chose to supercharge the LS3 for the ZR1 and not the LS7 due to it having thinner cylinder walls. Reliablity issues.

I wasn't trying to get this off topic was just replying to boosting it. I like the direction Chevy is going with the Camaro similar to what Ford has done with the Mustang. For the track I would go with this Z28. It's going to get even better when they get to the ATS chassis. Even lighter weight.

Now you're being more specific. The original post is somewhat misleading.

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

This car is a monster. Chevy is doing things right. They definitely deserve a round of applause for this.

The only thing I'm scratching my head on is the lack of Xenon lights. I'd take the extra few pounds to have those. Perhaps it will be an option though, we'll see.

Expect the Z/28 option list to be very short...

lol1234 · 03-28-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

like the front...not the rear...rear somehow reminds me of an ugly version of the Honda Prelude

That was my very first thought lol!

speedfreek · 03-28-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

The LS7 is probubly the best option for track use. An N/A setup is reliable and doesnt produce the same kind of heat. which is probubly why they stuck it in the z28. And if i recall the VQ motor had its issues early on as well...

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Your first post, you made it sound like the Z06 is still blowing engines and is not capable of holding boost... period. No mention of early on.

Now you're being more specific. The original post is somewhat misleading.

Expect the Z/28 option list to be very short...

Wasn't trying to be misleading. The point stands on its own with the fact that GM, the ones who build these motors, chose to boost the LS3 over the LS7. I am not saying it can't be done and once the build goes from mild to wild that certain precautions will have to take place to ensure some sort of reliability. Similar to the VQ. At some point the stock internals will not be able to handle the load placed on it and things will go wrong. As said there are builds on the LS7 in the 700-800hp range with no reported issues. Wasn't trying to make this a debate. You can boost anything with enough money.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-30-2013, 01:47 PM

Check out this Short Interview

2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 ready to tear up the track | Fox News

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-31-2013, 09:26 AM

Could the new tail lights on the Camaro, be a hint of the next retro-generation Camaro? I think, if the camaro were to go retro again, The one bodystyle it would definitely work on is the 1982-1992 Chevy camaro. Reason being, it was a futuristic style. It's Pontiac twin had it's own show based on a futuristic car. From 1982-1985 only the mitsubishi conquest was as futuristic as the camaro and it really was the ONLY thing in GM aside from corvette that was groundbraking at the time.
The bodystyle of this generation camaro, would look futuristic again while having classic lines. Kind of how a 240z body lines make it easy for a retro-styled Z.

MMC Racing · 03-31-2013, 09:45 AM

Not much exclusive owning a 370z in socal. You can see a 350 or 370z on the highway every couple minutes. Almost like thinking owning a truck in Texas is exclusive.

The take away from the Camaro refresh and Mustang updates is we get really screwed as 370z enthusiasts. Nissan makes tiny changes over a long lifecycle. Like someone else said, we have no direct competitor to push Nissan, but you would think the cheaper competitors would be pushing them. Such as the success of the BRZ/FRS and the evolution of the genesis. Hyundai updates at a very fast pace and they may just get it right next time.

mick · 03-31-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Hyundai updates at a very fast pace and they may just get it right next time.

I like this Hyundai HND-9 luxury sports coupe concept :-)
It looks kinda like a bigger 370z with Lambo doors.

MMC Racing · 03-31-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mick

I like this Hyundai HND-9 luxury sports coupe concept :-)
It looks kinda like a bigger 370z with Lambo doors.

I loved that concept when I saw it a few days back from every angle except the rear. If that was the new G-uh-Q coupe, it would be a hit.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-31-2013, 11:58 AM

They copied Nissan concepts down to the signature "Gun-Metallic" paint. First they were copying current cars to make the genesis coupes. Ok, didn't really bother me... Now they're copying concepts. Our concept was out 3 years ago. Copying concepts I think is a much bigger crime than copying the G35.

Hyundai is making enough money now to try to be more original.

MMC Racing · 03-31-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

They copied Nissan concepts down to the signature "Gun-Metallic" paint. First they were copying current cars to make the genesis coupes. Ok, didn't really bother me... Now they're copying concepts. Our concept was out 3 years ago. Copying concepts I think is a much bigger crime than copying the G35.

Hyundai is making enough money now to try to be more original.

If Nissan/Infiniti isn't smart/brave enough to build their own great looking concepts, I'm glad someone is.

frost · 03-31-2013, 01:17 PM

Not a hyundai thread, keep it on topic.

shadoquad · 03-31-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Not a hyundai thread, keep it on topic.

Agree

I am super psyched about the new Z28!!!

I was afraid that the LS7 would die with the C6 Z06. I wonder if this means the NA 7-liter small black will live on!

03-28-2013, 10:01 AM	#62 (permalink)
bigdog1250 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 846 Drives: 991.2 GT3 Rep Power: 17	This car is a monster. Chevy is doing things right. They definitely deserve a round of applause for this. The only thing I'm scratching my head on is the lack of Xenon lights. I'd take the extra few pounds to have those. Perhaps it will be an option though, we'll see. m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ 350z / 40th 370z / C6 Z06 / BMW M4 / V10 R8 / C7 Grand Spot / 997.1 GT3 / S2K / Camaro ZL1 / 718 GTS / 991.2 GT3

03-28-2013, 10:09 AM	#63 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	My guess is they feel it's not necessary on a track-oriented car. bigdog1250 likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-30-2013, 01:47 PM	#67 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Check out this Short Interview 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 ready to tear up the track \| Fox News KERMIT likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-31-2013, 09:26 AM	#68 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Could the new tail lights on the Camaro, be a hint of the next retro-generation Camaro? I think, if the camaro were to go retro again, The one bodystyle it would definitely work on is the 1982-1992 Chevy camaro. Reason being, it was a futuristic style. It's Pontiac twin had it's own show based on a futuristic car. From 1982-1985 only the mitsubishi conquest was as futuristic as the camaro and it really was the ONLY thing in GM aside from corvette that was groundbraking at the time. The bodystyle of this generation camaro, would look futuristic again while having classic lines. Kind of how a 240z body lines make it easy for a retro-styled Z. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 03-31-2013 at 09:32 AM.

03-31-2013, 09:45 AM	#69 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 16	Not much exclusive owning a 370z in socal. You can see a 350 or 370z on the highway every couple minutes. Almost like thinking owning a truck in Texas is exclusive. The take away from the Camaro refresh and Mustang updates is we get really screwed as 370z enthusiasts. Nissan makes tiny changes over a long lifecycle. Like someone else said, we have no direct competitor to push Nissan, but you would think the cheaper competitors would be pushing them. Such as the success of the BRZ/FRS and the evolution of the genesis. Hyundai updates at a very fast pace and they may just get it right next time. street2soul likes this. __________________ 2014 F150 Raptor, 2014 Mazda 3, 2015 Nissan GT-R

03-31-2013, 11:58 AM	#72 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	They copied Nissan concepts down to the signature "Gun-Metallic" paint. First they were copying current cars to make the genesis coupes. Ok, didn't really bother me... Now they're copying concepts. Our concept was out 3 years ago. Copying concepts I think is a much bigger crime than copying the G35. Hyundai is making enough money now to try to be more original. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 03-31-2013 at 12:03 PM.

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