2014 camaro Z/28

asdfsammich

For sure. Z28 is a great move. I'm really digging the actual performance focus, and, from my perspective at least, cheeky nods to it, like a one speaker radio lols.




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asdfsammich

As far as all those fluffy posts about rare, exclusive etc ... not sure I dig the Z the categorized as a cult thing. Been watching too much "The Following" lately and those people are freaking nuts.

How about seeing the Z as excluded from the set of cars that have direct competition that influence kick arse development, and lets say that set is only Mustang/Camaro. Yep, I'd rather drink that koolaid lols. All semantics though, i.e. a different load.


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All cult means is a small bunch of die hards that are loyal fans of anything.

I think the Z more than certifies in the cult category. But again, not a Z, or hyundai thread,

Yeah but, this car and the 1LE are the closest you are going to get to stock track camaro's out the box. Outside the mustang Boss302. I cant think of a car $50,000 or less that can be this track capable and have this much power behind it from stock. CRAZY!!!

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StangerGT

I can easily say I see more Z's around me then Camaro's... I think the Z was what you stated... maybe a few years ago. Its been around log enough now that the market is flooded with them. The used car dealer near me has like 4 or 5 sitting out front... not even one mustang.

Note... they have had mustangs in the past tho...

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The whole 6 year run of the 350z sold 150,000 units.

The first year of the 2010 Camaro models sold 125,000 units.

If you add up all the 350z's plus 370z's out there. There may be 190,000 350 and 370z's combined. And 190,000 units may be an exaggeration still???
By the end of model year 2011. There were over 210,000 camaro's sold. They beat us in the first 2 years vs a generation and a half of Z's. Add and average of 80,000 Camaro units being sold since then.

Camaro has sold nearly 350,000 units over 4 years.
The Z sold nearly 190,000 units in 10 years.

If we only count the appropriate generations
The 370Z has sold right around 40,000 units.
The Camaro has sold 350,000 units.

You need a multitude of generations of z's combined over the course of 23 years to play in the arena of units sold of new camaro's out there. i don't have Z32 numbers but they didnt sell well here. Thats why they were cancelled in the U.S. So im going to guess even with the z32 added. We don't get close. By comparison to Mustang, Camaro and BMW sales numbers in the united states. The Z is a cult car guaranteed. If I throw in the Camaro numbers from 25 years ago. The camaro would go close to a million units, if not more? So would the camaro... The Z would be around 300,000 units here.
Just because you have a disproportionate amount of Z's in your area doesn't make it not a low volume selling car on a national level.



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The Z32 sold an estimated 46,000 units in the U.S. Decided to go find out. So since 1991. There has been approx. 240,000 z's. give or take a few thousand.
The Z31(1984-1990) sold 3.5x more units in the U.S. proving to be as popular as the Z33.

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StangerGT

And with all that said, I agree with the numbers... but just because we are comparing the Z to two models that have a disproportionaty high amount of sales, that doesnt mean the Z per say is a cult car. It just means those two car models sell like hot cakes, and have been around forever. Those cars also have a much wider range of use then the Z. And if we compare the Camaro and Mustang combined, against many cars they would be considered a cult.

I consider a cult following to be of a car that is somewhat rare, maybe sold in low numbers or many have been since destroyed, and is followed because of a hard to find nature, or a quarkyness. The Z does not have these qualities. Its rather inexpensive for the performance offered, I could go buy one right now used or new without even trying to find one. There is a large aftermarket for it.

I think it may have been a cult at the start, but I think it has out grown this.

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mick

I think only guys who are into driving the car at the track would love this car. The Z28 pretty much has no options, like a race car, compared to lesser Camaro models. For that reason, even if I could afford it, I would not consider.

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StangerGT

A friend of mine has a Delorian... that is deff a cult car.

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He also has a 79 Land Rover Defender...

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UNKNOWN_370

That is a rare, cult and right now an exclusive car. It hits all three.

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mick

In the Top Gear show where they tested the Camaro, Jeremy Clarkson said, it's a car driven by serial killers :-O

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StangerGT

You could say a cult following is a Z group dedicated to drag racing? or maybe a group of mustang owners dedicated to road course racing? This falls into that specific area of culture you stated, but simply because one wants to mod a Z... i dont think cult would be the word.

I would say those who track and race Miata's are probubly a cult following, but I wouldnt say all the people who mod their miata's fit into that catigory.

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asdfsammich

I just agree that it's all a bit dubious. And maybe big time OT, but that's ok with me.

How guys get jumped on for using the word exclusive, and there's all the circle jerking for using rare or cult instead. I guess my point is any of those words are equally apt as they're all fuzzy.

All I know is some cars sell more units than others and it varies by market.

Everything else is marketing hacks.

Oh, and this Z28 looks tits! Can I use that word?




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asdfsammich

Oh and don't take me too I'm just mostly screwing around

But this damn tapatalk not emoticons!


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