2014 Camaro Refresh due to be unveiled at NY NAIAS

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-11-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

My main issue with the Camaro (and most American cars, to be honest), is that the seats are not made for me. Hell, the entire car is not made for me.

I'm a short, skinny guy, and the Camaro just feels like it isn't made for someone of that size at all. The seats are huge, the steering wheel is a giant brick of plastic, everything feels oversized -- it's just... eugh.

I like how it sounds. The power is cool. The 1LE package is awesome.

But the car itself is just... I don't know. Poorly designed, I guess? They certainly sacrificed a lot just for the sake of aesthetics, and that shows if you don't fit perfectly into the Camaro.

The 1LE actually has an alcantara steering wheel. The good thing with the 1LE, you don't have to touch the suspension. The only thing I would like to do is lower the car. But all the right parts are in there. Which will save you money. (Our z suspensions need mods) With that said. The seats would be fixed by buying some recaro or other type racing seat.

Most cars under $100,000 aren't perfect, and you will always need to fix something. On the Z, The priority is in the suspension for track use. In the 1LE, it will be the seats.

but if you're short and skinny? You may look a little silly behind the wheel of a camaro? The Z is probably the perfect fit. I'm 6ft and 170lbs. I still look small coming out a camaro. lol

CAMARO: The Car That Makes Big Guys Look Small.

mick · 03-11-2013, 02:33 PM

well, guys, sorry, I like big cars :-)

One time one of my co-workers gave me a 15 min lecture because she heard I had said the Humvee was a cool car :-O

Cmike2780 · 03-11-2013, 02:45 PM

The changes to the styling are minor...very minor based on the spyshots a few weeks ago. You probably couldn't tell the difference unless you're an owner. I'm guessing it's going to be as interesting or uninteresting as the facelift to the Z.

theDreamer · 03-11-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

The changes to the styling are minor...very minor based on the spyshots a few weeks ago. You probably couldn't tell the difference unless you're an owner.

You never know, like the Mustang there has not been a new body style on the road yet.
All test mules have been just current model cars with different interiors, suspension, and engine.

Cmike2780 · 03-11-2013, 03:03 PM

I can't honestly think of a good reason anyone would pick a high powered Camaro, re-styled or otherwise, over a new Corvette Stingray. If they drop an LS7 in the Camaro, the price is gonna approach or exceed the Corvette. I doubt the unveal is going to be the new platform, so we're still talking about a relatively heavy car.

shadoquad · 03-11-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can't honestly think of a good reason anyone would pick a high powered Camaro, re-styled or otherwise, over a new Corvette Stingray. If they drop an LS7 in the Camaro, the price is gonna approach or exceed the Corvette. I doubt the unveal is going to be the new platform, so we're still talking about a relatively heavy car.

If you need a back seat?

If you drive friends and family around?

The Camaro is a more practical car, albeit slower.

The ZL1 doesn't need an LS7 to reach Vette moneys.

That said, a Corvette is the leading candidate to replace my Z in a year or two.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-11-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can't honestly think of a good reason anyone would pick a high powered Camaro, re-styled or otherwise, over a new Corvette Stingray. If they drop an LS7 in the Camaro, the price is gonna approach or exceed the Corvette. I doubt the unveal is going to be the new platform, so we're still talking about a relatively heavy car.

In the real world and not in unlimited income world... $20,000
Back seats may be useful as well as lower insurance due to back seats. Some people just plain old,ACTUALLY like GT's??? Maybe???

Redesign is a 2016 model. This is just a refresh. I clarified that in the primary post.

mick · 03-11-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In the real world and not in unlimited income world... $20,000
Back seats may be useful as well as lower insurance due to back seats. Some people just plain old,

ACTUALLY like GT's??? Maybe???

you know, my 2013 camaro 2SS insurance premium is lower than my 2010 370z nismo.
C7's insurance premium has got to be much higher.

rates for 6-months:

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-11-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mick

you know, my 2013 camaro 2SS insurance premium is lower than my 2010 370z nismo.
C7's insurance premium has got to be much higher.

rates for 6-months:

Not only that but Z insurance has been stagnant or has increased for most. Camaro has been lowered more over time than the Z.

shadoquad · 03-11-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mick

you know, my 2013 camaro 2SS insurance premium is lower than my 2010 370z nismo.
C7's insurance premium has got to be much higher.

rates for 6-months:

Insurance rates vary by many many factors.

And this past summer, I got quoted for insurance with the idea of trading my Z in for a used Corvette Z06. The Vette was much cheaper to insure than the 370Z. I was amazed. Same type of car (rwd 2-seater), and the Corvette was lighter and 170hp faster than the Z, yet cheaper to insure.

mick · 03-11-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Insurance rates vary by many many factors.

And this past summer, I got quoted for insurance with the idea of trading my Z in for a used Corvette Z06. The Vette was much cheaper to insure than the 370Z. I was amazed. Same type of car (rwd 2-seater), and the Corvette was lighter and 170hp faster than the Z, yet cheaper to insure.

perhaps it's because in general, z drivers are younger than Corvette drivers ?
someone told me WRX's insurance rates are quite high because of the young drivers.

lol1234 · 03-11-2013, 08:02 PM

Do you also think it's because there are more Vettes on the road? Therefore easier to get parts or maybe the parts are cheaper? I'm just taking a wild guess. I see hardly any 370z's but come across Vettes all the time, even Z06's. I rarely see a new STI. But then again, I can only speak from my experience. Maybe others see Z's all the time.

shadoquad · 03-11-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lol1234

Do you also think it's because there are more Vettes on the road? Therefore easier to get parts or maybe the parts are cheaper? I'm just taking a wild guess. I see hardly any 370z's but come across Vettes all the time, even Z06's. I rarely see a new STI. But then again, I can only speak from my experience. Maybe others see Z's all the time.

Quite possible!

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-12-2013, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lol1234

Do you also think it's because there are more Vettes on the road? Therefore easier to get parts or maybe the parts are cheaper? I'm just taking a wild guess. I see hardly any 370z's but come across Vettes all the time, even Z06's. I rarely see a new STI. But then again, I can only speak from my experience. Maybe others see Z's all the time.

The Z sells low but is built on a common platform. FM
The VQ37 sells in the G37 sedan and coupe which sells about 60,000 units a year
The M37 is also built on the same platform and sells around 20,000 units. The Ex35 and FX are built on the same platform. So chassis parts are plenty as well as engine parts. Problem is... Everything from FM platform is imported so there's added importation taxes and shipping on those parts. All vette parts are made here in the USA.

lol1234 · 03-12-2013, 12:19 PM

Good point, I didn't think of that. And domestic vs. international parts makes sense.

03-11-2013, 02:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 17	well, guys, sorry, I like big cars :-) One time one of my co-workers gave me a 15 min lecture because she heard I had said the Humvee was a cool car :-O __________________ 2013 Chevy Camaro 2SS LS3 2013 Subaru WRX Limited Sedan 2013 VW Beetle 2.5L

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	The changes to the styling are minor...very minor based on the spyshots a few weeks ago. You probably couldn't tell the difference unless you're an owner. I'm guessing it's going to be as interesting or uninteresting as the facelift to the Z. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography] Last edited by Cmike2780; 03-11-2013 at 02:49 PM.

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I can't honestly think of a good reason anyone would pick a high powered Camaro, re-styled or otherwise, over a new Corvette Stingray. If they drop an LS7 in the Camaro, the price is gonna approach or exceed the Corvette. I doubt the unveal is going to be the new platform, so we're still talking about a relatively heavy car. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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lol1234 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 73 Drives: Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 14	Do you also think it's because there are more Vettes on the road? Therefore easier to get parts or maybe the parts are cheaper? I'm just taking a wild guess. I see hardly any 370z's but come across Vettes all the time, even Z06's. I rarely see a new STI. But then again, I can only speak from my experience. Maybe others see Z's all the time.

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lol1234 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 73 Drives: Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 14	Good point, I didn't think of that. And domestic vs. international parts makes sense.