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Originally Posted by 370zrider If compared to the $33k Camaro SS with a 3:09.5 time and the $32k Mustang GT 5.0 with 3:08.6 time, the 370z isn't really a bargain.

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Old 05-08-2013, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If compared to the $33k Camaro SS with a 3:09.5 time
and the $32k Mustang GT 5.0 with 3:08.6 time, the 370z isn't really a bargain.

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But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself... am I buying this car because of its track times?

I know I didn't.
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But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself... am I buying this car because of its track times?

I know I didn't.
I know you autocross & such so this isn't really directed at your experience but... I don't thing most people are good enough drivers to get the full potential out of much slower cars than the Z. I'm not. I have no problem admitting it. If I were, I'd be a professional driver in auto racing, or a stuntman, or something like that. Most of these jokers going on about these magazine times are just like me except they won't admit they're not professional driver caliber.

Is the Z perfect at 9- 9.9/10? I dunno, I don't drive it like that, I'm not pretending it's a race car. It's got ample grip on a warm dry day and it's damned fun when you push it a little - and it's still a good cruiser when you're not.

And for what it's worth, I love the "heavy" feel of the steering. One thing I really hate about most cars I drive these days is how slow and over-boosted the steering feels.
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But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself... am I buying this car because of its track times?

I know I didn't.
it's too bad C&D doesn't have competitions over which cars look the best parked at a Starbucks.
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But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself... am I buying this car because of its track times?

I know I didn't.


When I see comparisons like this these type of questions come to my mind, just wanted to bring this subject to discussion.
At the end of the day I bought the 370z mainly because the way it looks and its configuration:

It is a 2 seater, small agile car. The way, I think, sports car should be.

I could have gone for a Mustang or a Camaro SS but didnt fit with my -ideal- sports car.
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Considering 1 second quicker makes sense that Nissan did a good job on improving the 350z.

In terms of C&D's comparison, that wouldn't make much difference. It would be placed before BMW z4M.

84 3:11.1 BMW X5 M LLT 2/12
85 3:11.7 BMW Z4 M COUPE LL2 8/07
86 3:12.0 NISSAN NISMO 370Z LL2 2/10
87 3:12.5 NISSAN 350Z TRACK LL1 11/06


If compared to the $33k Camaro SS with a 3:09.5 time
and the $32k Mustang GT 5.0 with 3:08.6 time, the 370z isn't really a bargain.

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A bargain, the Z is not. These track numbers are subjective, Most cars on the list can lose to the 370z on another day or in another track. Too many variables to make these numbers concrete performance stattistics.
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I was amazed when I found that my unit was only $350 shipped from Amazon prime.
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I was amazed when I found that my unit was only $350 shipped from Amazon prime.
Amazon.com com is the best.
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As I like to say, "If it isn't on Prime, I don't need it."
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As I like to say, "If it isn't on Prime, I don't need it."
mostly. They don't sell mags on amazon. lol I need that.
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Suspension is always a compromise. Like the reviewer said, they believe it'd be quicker on a race track, but on their test slalom it was not because of... compromise.
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You'd just think they'd have given it the goods. Especially at its price.
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You'd just think they'd have given it the goods. Especially at its price.
You know the sport package is not 35k anymore right? Even if you got a good deal they are trying to charge 38k at all dealers.. And like you said that's almost 40k when all said and done. Way to much
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I just bought one for less than $35k.

It's a bit of a stretch given what you get, but it's the car I wanted so whatever. #YOLO
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I just bought one for less than $35k.

It's a bit of a stretch given what you get, but it's the car I wanted so whatever. #YOLO
34-35 is a great package, but that's not what they are charging your average joe.

Also I had to spend 1200 just to get a proper exhaust note, 400 on swift springs to make the car feel planted and stiffer. I spent 1200 on pss tires just to prevent massive oversteer. I spent 500 to change head unit and speakers that blew the day after I drove home with car.
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34-35 is a great package, but that's not what they are charging your average joe.

Also I had to spend 1200 just to get a proper exhaust note, 400 on swift springs to make the car feel planted and stiffer. I spent 1200 on pss tires just to prevent massive oversteer. I spent 500 to change head unit and speakers that blew the day after I drove home with car.
1) Average Joe needs to do more research. They should pay invoice or better.

2) Everyone buys exhaust.

3) Personal preference

4) Massive oversteer? This is a front heavy car that likes to plow when pushed hard on corner entry. Must be doing something wrong?

5. Most everyone that gets a base car does it with the intent of upgrading the stereo.
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