Nissan 370Z Forum  

How not to drive your M3

Originally Posted by ImportConvert Strongly disagree. I'm far from rich, but last year I think my net income was probably +-150% of that of my most successful parent's current income

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Other Vehicles


Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-31-2012, 07:02 PM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert View Post
Strongly disagree. I'm far from rich, but last year I think my net income was probably +-150% of that of my most successful parent's current income (I have 4 parents, including step-parents).
No offense, I just wouldn't call that "significant". You're still in the same ballpark. Lots of people make a little more for a while (and some don't). But being able to establish yourself at a completely new level of society is a different thing (as in: your dad worked manual labor, but you're a multi-millionaire-for-life living it responsibly and not necessarily required to "work" for a living anymore).

The most common counter-example is the middle-class guy who gets rich on a successful small business or investment idea at a relatively early age, but even among those a high percentage will fall right back to their "natural level" in well under 10 years by pissing it away and making poor financial choices.

When I was 19 I had already overtaken my dad's salary from his long term career by a hefty chunk. 15+ years later, and I still probably out-earn him by a little (he's continued to do well late into his career, and hasn't retired yet). In the big picture though, we're still in the same approximate economic class. We're both comfortably upper-middle, but lack the sort of stable, long-term financial freedom to truly be called upper class.

I've known a lot of people all across the economic scale, but I know very very few that made a large upward jump in their adult lives and vaulted into a new category (and kept it). The average seems to be a lot of people getting "a little" ahead, and a few people backsliding tremendously to balance things out.

Trying to pull this back to thread-relevance though, my point was: Generally when you see someone who's obviously rich upper class, it's a statistical safe assumption they were born that way.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details

Last edited by wstar; 08-31-2012 at 07:05 PM.
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 07:37 PM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZKraken22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,115
Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z 7AT
Rep Power: 15
ZKraken22 is on a distinguished road
Default

damn that go pro survived that crash! that was funny! didnt even try to turn it was like he was fooled by the road!
__________________
Litespeed Racing Titanium Cold Air intake// GT Haus Axle// GarageLine combo// Nismo sway bars// Nismo Spoiler // Berk TP's
ZKraken22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:18 PM   #48 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
asdfsammich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 456
Drives: 09 370Z SR MT
Rep Power: 13
asdfsammich is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by falconfixer View Post

Secondly, he target fixated. Well known phenomenom that it doesn't matter what you input(his piss poor steering inputs) if you fixate on a taget you will hit it.
True. Watched it a few times and it seems like he's aiming for the rocks.



Tapatalk & such etc
asdfsammich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:41 PM   #49 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wstar View Post
No offense, I just wouldn't call that "significant". You're still in the same ballpark. Lots of people make a little more for a while (and some don't). But being able to establish yourself at a completely new level of society is a different thing (as in: your dad worked manual labor, but you're a multi-millionaire-for-life living it responsibly and not necessarily required to "work" for a living anymore).

The most common counter-example is the middle-class guy who gets rich on a successful small business or investment idea at a relatively early age, but even among those a high percentage will fall right back to their "natural level" in well under 10 years by pissing it away and making poor financial choices.

When I was 19 I had already overtaken my dad's salary from his long term career by a hefty chunk. 15+ years later, and I still probably out-earn him by a little (he's continued to do well late into his career, and hasn't retired yet). In the big picture though, we're still in the same approximate economic class. We're both comfortably upper-middle, but lack the sort of stable, long-term financial freedom to truly be called upper class.

I've known a lot of people all across the economic scale, but I know very very few that made a large upward jump in their adult lives and vaulted into a new category (and kept it). The average seems to be a lot of people getting "a little" ahead, and a few people backsliding tremendously to balance things out.

Trying to pull this back to thread-relevance though, my point was: Generally when you see someone who's obviously rich upper class, it's a statistical safe assumption they were born that way.
I understand, but I don't know many multimillionairs, period. I do have a few friends that qualify, I believe, and do not have to work unless they decide to. One got bored and built a subway, it is very profitable. I think 150% is meaningful. It's the difference in new vehicles and ten year old vehicles. In vacations and not. In having credit card debt and not. Etc. However, yes, I am still in their same bracket. An m3 wouldn't be a problem though, so I assumed that was the reference point.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:43 PM   #50 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdfsammich View Post
True. Watched it a few times and it seems like he's aiming for the rocks.



Tapatalk & such etc
+1 one of the first things they taught us at spring mountain. Complete with a similar video.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:48 PM   #51 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s View Post
I think you're both saying the same thing here.
My parents were manual or trade type labor, with the exception of my step father who does it and learned on the job, basically,no college, and had no real grasp of what I was up to in school aside from my degree path. They simply trusted my judgement and supported me. I learned all I know from other sources, they just provided the assistance I needed, much thanks!

Last edited by ImportConvert; 08-31-2012 at 08:58 PM.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:50 PM   #52 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
How he got the car doesn't really matter. It's the fact that this kid probably thinks he's the Stig after years of training on Gran Turismo. He Drives like a squid and crashed liked one. Definitely unfamiliar with the road. First mistake. Second mistake, don't race....or drive stupid unless it's something you can afford to fix.
Collisions like that in a vette start at $5k plus airbags and underbody.15k in a viper. What is it in an m3?
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 09:22 PM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Cmike2780's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 5,059
Drives: slowwww
Rep Power: 28
Cmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert View Post
Collisions like that in a vette start at $5k plus airbags and underbody.15k in a viper. What is it in an m3?
That thing is totalled. Way more than $5k worth of damage
__________________
[09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R]

Cmike2780 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 11:21 PM   #54 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
zguynate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Strangeland
Posts: 1,052
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 73
zguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
That thing is totalled. Way more than $5k worth of damage
Word. Front bumper, radiator support, a/c condenser, radiator, fans, possible engine damage and suspension damage, and then the front air bags.

And Ill go ahead and second wstars comment on jumping social classes. Its very rare that someone goes from "rags to riches". Im not talking about Billy who managed to somehow afford a Lamborghini on a mechanics salary (I personally know some one who has done this lol) but going from living in a trailer park to living in the part of town where no one can afford, then being able to buy nice things on top of that.

With that being said, I know someone who makes 100k a year (thats a pretty big salary for this general area. I make 46k lol) and is always broke. Then I also know someone who makes 50k a year and supports his wife and 5 kids and still lives a somewhat comfortable life. Its all in how you handle your money. I cannot stress that enough, especially to younger people like my self. You would be surprised at what you can afford/save if you put back that money that you use for alcohol, drugs, going out to eat, etc.
__________________
2009 370z touring w/sports package
zguynate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 01:55 AM   #55 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonbreath View Post
Word. Front bumper, radiator support, a/c condenser, radiator, fans, possible engine damage and suspension damage, and then the front air bags.

And Ill go ahead and second wstars comment on jumping social classes. Its very rare that someone goes from "rags to riches". Im not talking about Billy who managed to somehow afford a Lamborghini on a mechanics salary (I personally know some one who has done this lol) but going from living in a trailer park to living in the part of town where no one can afford, then being able to buy nice things on top of that.

With that being said, I know someone who makes 100k a year (thats a pretty big salary for this general area. I make 46k lol) and is always broke. Then I also know someone who makes 50k a year and supports his wife and 5 kids and still lives a somewhat comfortable life. Its all in how you handle your money. I cannot stress that enough, especially to younger people like my self. You would be surprised at what you can afford/save if you put back that money that you use for alcohol, drugs, going out to eat, etc.
Shy by a bit of six figures here, but I agree 100%. I am able to do quite a bit with it with no debt but my auto note. I rarely go out to eat (take my dad out once a week, that's it.) And have not been to see a movie since prometheus (it sucked, I thought.). But I do buy class 3 weapons like candy and just took delivery of 2.5 cases of .223 speer 64gr gold dot, so I have my vices...
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 08:26 AM   #56 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
b1adesofcha0s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: MD
Posts: 40,963
Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo!
Rep Power: 141
b1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert View Post
My parents were manual or trade type labor, with the exception of my step father who does it and learned on the job, basically,no college, and had no real grasp of what I was up to in school aside from my degree path. They simply trusted my judgement and supported me. I learned all I know from other sources, they just provided the assistance I needed, much thanks!
Exact same way here. I just graduated with an engineering degree and once I find a permanent engineering position, I should be good to make more than what both my parents do now combined
b1adesofcha0s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 08:47 AM   #57 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Cmike2780's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 5,059
Drives: slowwww
Rep Power: 28
Cmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Having a ton of cash is awesome, but you can be just as miserable making $20k a year as your are making $200k a year. My salary has doubled since I first started out of college 6 years ago, but it's the same old stress and problems no matter how much you make. I guess that's why I like cars so much. You can have just as much fun in a $500 beater as you would I a $250k Ferrari.
__________________
[09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R]

Cmike2780 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 08:57 AM   #58 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
Having a ton of cash is awesome, but you can be just as miserable making $20k a year as your are making $200k a year. My salary has doubled since I first started out of college 6 years ago, but it's the same old stress and problems no matter how much you make. I guess that's why I like cars so much. You can have just as much fun in a $500 beater as you would I a $250k Ferrari.
I am so much happier now than I was as a child. I can actually afford things like health insurance, new clothing, etc. It's kindof nice not laying awake at night listening to your parents yell at each other about how they are going to afford food and pay bills. I've grown to enjoy the freedom of being a successful middle-class American. How does that stress you out?
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 10:43 AM   #59 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Mo' Money Mo' Problems
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #60 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Nismo89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Colora, MD
Age: 34
Posts: 15,831
Drives: daily Zen and woosah
Rep Power: 37386
Nismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond reputeNismo89 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MC View Post

there's no other word to put this........

Dumb @$$. total DUMB A$$.
__________________
Why yes.. Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs, The Ford Commericals,Deadliest Catch.. is my cousin.
Facebook
i outta back hand you with my right hand! and call you b*tch!..... and im Left handed!
Nismo89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Our first drive with the Z McFrostyJ Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 8 06-29-2011 02:39 PM
z drive 6/25 azn370z North West Region 6 06-26-2011 01:34 AM
So...you think you can drive? ImportConvert Other Vehicles 14 06-12-2011 12:49 PM
How do you drive your AT Z DrEvil Nissan 370Z General Discussions 37 04-28-2011 10:36 PM
Other than drive your Z...What do you do for FUN ? FERRARI The Lounge (Off Topic) 0 11-17-2010 05:08 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2