2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Long thread warning)

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Who are you again????

Anyway. I'm a Z fanatic and only want the Z to succeed and keep succeding at being the best without there being a comparison to a hyundai... I already own my Z and on my second Z and owned 2 G's 3 altima's. A 240sx fastack and will probably own a few more nissans. I'm just saying I want to the Z to be more competitive... they can always make an NA 3.4/tr engine with 300hp on the same chassis for the ones that want it more pure...

As far as cost or competing with the GT-R. The Z is RWD 2 seat sports car. The GTR is 4 seat, AWD supercar. They are built for different reasons and don't cross all that much. The price hike and refinement of the GT-R also don't make them close competitors.

As far as cost. BMW, Subaru and Mitsubishi seem to be working out pretty ok having turbo and non turbo versions of there sports cars and keeping them warranty.

As far as quality. I don't see how quality would go backwards. If anything my ideas would move it forward. Why do you really need power seats in a non-reclining sports car with no back seats??? You can have rich supple leather on a manual seat. ferrari does it all day long. Nissan won't go backward on plastics and what we have now is pretty top notch.

But Red is right about one thing. I don't think the gen is comparable to the Z. The can't hang on the track part? I heard that before about the camaro SS. Anyone remember the deficit between the Z and camaro SS??? I believe the camaro beat our cars well over a second. And their suspension sucks.

Power seats are a selling point. Keep in mind the car is not necessarily marketed to enthusiasts alone. There are people that want the "luxury" of seat heaters, automatic seats, brand name sound, etc.

I'm with you though, I don't see any need for power seats. But I know others do so I guess Nissan has to try and balance. They assume the purist type will just opt for the base interior.

I don't like power seats because of 1) weight, 2) speed (they are slow!) and 3) they are expensive when they break... and they do break!!!