2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Long thread warning)

[Kingbaby]

Op go buy one

/thread

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by Kingbaby

Op go buy one

/thread

Who are you again????

Anyway. I'm a Z fanatic and only want the Z to succeed and keep succeding at being the best without there being a comparison to a hyundai... I already own my Z and on my second Z and owned 2 G's 3 altima's. A 240sx fastack and will probably own a few more nissans. I'm just saying I want to the Z to be more competitive... they can always make an NA 3.4/tr engine with 300hp on the same chassis for the ones that want it more pure...

As far as cost or competing with the GT-R. The Z is RWD 2 seat sports car. The GTR is 4 seat, AWD supercar. They are built for different reasons and don't cross all that much. The price hike and refinement of the GT-R also don't make them close competitors.

As far as cost. BMW, Subaru and Mitsubishi seem to be working out pretty ok having turbo and non turbo versions of there sports cars and keeping them warranty.

As far as quality. I don't see how quality would go backwards. If anything my ideas would move it forward. Why do you really need power seats in a non-reclining sports car with no back seats??? You can have rich supple leather on a manual seat. ferrari does it all day long. Nissan won't go backward on plastics and what we have now is pretty top notch.

But Red is right about one thing. I don't think the gen is comparable to the Z. The can't hang on the track part? I heard that before about the camaro SS. Anyone remember the deficit between the Z and camaro SS??? I believe the camaro beat our cars well over a second. And their suspension sucks. The track is something that the two cars just have to be on the track to see...

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Who are you again????

Anyway. I'm a Z fanatic and only want the Z to succeed and keep succeding at being the best without there being a comparison to a hyundai... I already own my Z and on my second Z and owned 2 G's 3 altima's. A 240sx fastack and will probably own a few more nissans. I'm just saying I want to the Z to be more competitive... they can always make an NA 3.4/tr engine with 300hp on the same chassis for the ones that want it more pure...

As far as cost or competing with the GT-R. The Z is RWD 2 seat sports car. The GTR is 4 seat, AWD supercar. They are built for different reasons and don't cross all that much. The price hike and refinement of the GT-R also don't make them close competitors.

As far as cost. BMW, Subaru and Mitsubishi seem to be working out pretty ok having turbo and non turbo versions of there sports cars and keeping them warranty.

As far as quality. I don't see how quality would go backwards. If anything my ideas would move it forward. Why do you really need power seats in a non-reclining sports car with no back seats??? You can have rich supple leather on a manual seat. ferrari does it all day long. Nissan won't go backward on plastics and what we have now is pretty top notch.

But Red is right about one thing. I don't think the gen is comparable to the Z. The can't hang on the track part? I heard that before about the camaro SS. Anyone remember the deficit between the Z and camaro SS??? I believe the camaro beat our cars well over a second. And their suspension sucks.

Power seats are a selling point. Keep in mind the car is not necessarily marketed to enthusiasts alone. There are people that want the "luxury" of seat heaters, automatic seats, brand name sound, etc.

I'm with you though, I don't see any need for power seats. But I know others do so I guess Nissan has to try and balance. They assume the purist type will just opt for the base interior.

I don't like power seats because of 1) weight, 2) speed (they are slow!) and 3) they are expensive when they break... and they do break!!!

[ZMan8]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Power seats are a selling point. Keep in mind the car is not necessarily marketed to enthusiasts alone. There are people that want the "luxury" of seat heaters, automatic seats, brand name sound, etc.

I'm with you though, I don't see any need for power seats. But I know others do so I guess Nissan has to try and balance. They assume the purist type will just opt for the base interior.

I don't like power seats because of 1) weight, 2) speed (they are slow!) and 3) they are expensive when they break... and they do break!!!

1) , 2), 3)

even though i have power seats

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by ZMan8

1) , 2), 3)

even though i have power seats

Yeah me too.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Power seats are a selling point. Keep in mind the car is not necessarily marketed to enthusiasts alone. There are people that want the "luxury" of seat heaters, automatic seats, brand name sound, etc.

I'm with you though, I don't see any need for power seats. But I know others do so I guess Nissan has to try and balance. They assume the purist type will just opt for the base interior.

I don't like power seats because of 1) weight, 2) speed (they are slow!) and 3) they are expensive when they break... and they do break!!!

Nobody drives my Z so I don't fuss with the seats. Maybe what's wrong with the Z is that its not sold in low numbers to enthusiasts ONLY like the S2k was,miata, EVO and WRX STi. I guess that's what makes those cars special.

[ZMan8]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nobody drives my Z so I don't fuss with the seats. Maybe what's wrong with the Z is that its not sold in low numbers to enthusiasts ONLY like the S2k was,miata, EVO and WRX STi. I guess that's what makes those cars special.

Miata....over 900,000 sales since 1990

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nobody drives my Z so I don't fuss with the seats. Maybe what's wrong with the Z is that its not sold in low numbers to enthusiasts ONLY like the S2k was,miata, EVO and WRX STi. I guess that's what makes those cars special.

Yeah but Nissan needs to try to make money off the car, so it has to appeal to a broad market.

With the EVO/STI, they are subsidized by the base models. The Miata has always been a cult seller. And it's cheap as heck... though some of the more recent ones aren't. S2000 was on the market at a good time, but if you follow the progression of it Honda made near yearly changes to make it appeal more to a broader market.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah but Nissan needs to try to make money off the car, so it has to appeal to a broad market.

With the EVO/STI, they are subsidized by the base models. The Miata has always been a cult seller. And it's cheap as heck... though some of the more recent ones aren't. S2000 was on the market at a good time, but if you follow the progression of it Honda made near yearly changes to make it appeal more to a broader market.

Speaking of the Miata... you can now get the thing with a hard top convertible... So even Mazda is doing things you otherwise wouldn't expect to make the car have more appeal to a broader market.

[ZMan8]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Speaking of the Miata... you can now get the thing with a hard top convertible... So even Mazda is doing things you otherwise wouldn't expect to make the car have more appeal to a broader market.

haha screw that, give me an Na Miata with the 1.8 engine!

[Kingbaby]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Who are you again????

Anyway. I'm a Z fanatic and only want the Z to succeed and keep succeding at being the best without there being a comparison to a hyundai... I already own my Z and on my second Z and owned 2 G's 3 altima's. A 240sx fastack and will probably own a few more nissans. I'm just saying I want to the Z to be more competitive... they can always make an NA 3.4/tr engine with 300hp on the same chassis for the ones that want it more pure...

"Yeah I'm A Lady, I'm a Lady! Not Really... Its me, KingJulian! Now, which of you is attracted to me KingBaby?"" -

Seriously man...your Z fanatic? The Genesis Coupe



All Z owners want more power...None of us needs power. The ones that do trade the Z in for a mustang/camaro/evo/subaru...go figure looks isn't a factor to some...





Even this version of the 370Z looks worlds better than the gen coupe. Some of your points are mute, and cynical. So crazy to even take serious.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nobody drives my Z so I don't fuss with the seats. Maybe what's wrong with the Z is that its not sold in low numbers to enthusiasts ONLY like the S2k was,miata, EVO and WRX STi. I guess that's what makes those cars special.

If they was any car to compare to the current Z to me. It would be the BRZ/FRS the idea behind those cars is what the Z was. Now Nissan has stretched the Z to fit the American market (larger). Yet the Z car is true to the first Z car as any of them.

I sorry if my first post was blunt to this conversation, but C'mon son. Sh!t so ugly reminds me of

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The 370Z however much I hate it, still looks like this

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I did the Katie Perry 370Z please...also let's not pay too much to numbers that mags are posting!

Remember this

Drag Race - Genesis Coupe, 370Z, Mustang GT - YouTube

All subjective until it's on the street/strip. I think Nissan does need a little bump 20-30hp out of the engine. Therefore leading to more bolt-on hp. I've looked over many of the journals and it's insane the numbers some of these guys are putting down. Not everyone wants a car already done, with nothing to mod. The ones that do go get a GT-R

Shoots I don't know what I'm talking about...

sleepy and just got off a 12hr watch so hopefully you can follow my rant!