Camaro ZL1 Thoughts/News

ImportConvert · 01-31-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

heres a nice little writeup on all the GT500's goodies.

2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Official Photos and Info – News – Car and Driver

I saw a nice looking car.

I also read a bunch of rubbish about something weighing over 3700# with skinnier tires than a 370Z Nismo that comes in RWD only and has 600# of torque with a table-top power-curve.

It may well compete with the ZL1, but it doesn't have anything for the Z06 even in its wildest dreams. The Z06 is a driver's car, not a drag-strip bottle-rocket. The GT500 will never be what the Z06/ZR1 are. Not until they do some suspension work that involves a real tire, trim some fat, etc.

Also, the physics of IRS vs. SRA cannot be denied. You won't see it show up on a skidpad or a track, but take it to the street and introduce pot-holes and the like, and the SRA cannot help but have a smaller contact-patch when one tire dips into a pot-hole. It's just simple physics at that point.

Red370 · 01-31-2012, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I saw a nice looking car.

I also read a bunch of rubbish about something weighing over 3700# with skinnier tires than a 370Z Nismo that comes in RWD only and has 600# of torque with a table-top power-curve.

It may well compete with the ZL1, but it doesn't have anything for the Z06 even in its wildest dreams. The Z06 is a driver's car, not a drag-strip bottle-rocket. The GT500 will never be what the Z06/ZR1 are. Not until they do some suspension work that involves a real tire, trim some fat, etc.

Also, the physics of IRS vs. SRA cannot be denied. You won't see it show up on a skidpad or a track, but take it to the street and introduce pot-holes and the like, and the SRA cannot help but have a smaller contact-patch when one tire dips into a pot-hole. It's just simple physics at that point.

never compared it to a Z06, two completely different animals.

ImportConvert · 01-31-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

never compared it to a Z06, two completely different animals.

I understand and agree with you. They are both great cars IN THEIR CLASS, but the article you linked did directly compare them.

Pharmacist · 01-31-2012, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I saw a nice looking car.

I also read a bunch of rubbish about something weighing over 3700# with skinnier tires than a 370Z Nismo that comes in RWD only and has 600# of torque with a table-top power-curve.

It may well compete with the ZL1, but it doesn't have anything for the Z06 even in its wildest dreams. The Z06 is a driver's car, not a drag-strip bottle-rocket. The GT500 will never be what the Z06/ZR1 are. Not until they do some suspension work that involves a real tire, trim some fat, etc.

Also, the physics of IRS vs. SRA cannot be denied. You won't see it show up on a skidpad or a track, but take it to the street and introduce pot-holes and the like, and the SRA cannot help but have a smaller contact-patch when one tire dips into a pot-hole. It's just simple physics at that point.

The Mustang in all its variations and trim levels has improved a lot. Easily the most improved car of the decade. But it still has some way to go before being considered a true sports car.

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