Used Z06 vs New Z. Pros/Cons?

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

You are correct, but my hatred of gm is justified and based on years of my own experience. I've owned quite a few and used to be a Chevy guy.

I hate nissan, my G20--Sentra derivative from 2002 is a POS. Your 370Z has to be a POS now because of this.

^^^ ^^^

Luckily, my brain doesn't operate like that, so I will buy a 370Z and enjoy it.

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly

Z06 all the way. I love my Z, but the Z06 is in the same weight class, monstrous power as noted and its a stout beast. My friend's dad has one with 85k on it and has beaten it to death. Stock clutch still and NO issues.

And yes, if you cant handle that car at its limits, dont take it to the limit. The backend does break free quite easily so be careful in it. Also, be wary of the cost to replace anything you damage, carbon fiber and expensive parts abound on that thing.

Front-end starts at about 5K on a Z06 for cosmetic damage.
Cold weather makes the car SCARY unless you have some self-control.
I love my Z06, but it's a waste unless you a)don't care about legal trouble. b) track it. c) are just buying it for the ego/experience.

I bought mine for the experience, and a bit of the ego.

It has been fun, but I am now trading into a 370Z (when I find one) for the interior and USABLE power. Not to say the Z06 is not docile and tractable when you want it to be, it's just, I am not using a lot of what I payed for with this car. It will do nearly 90 in 2nd gear for crying out loud.

birdmanx1 · 02-01-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

^^^ ^^^

May I ask why are you getting rid of your cool Z06 so soon boss?

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

Who knows how they arrive at that data? Do they track actual dealer service records? I doubt it.

In any case, I've never owned a 370 (until now) or 350, nor a corvette. I don't really care about the argument one way or another. I've just been so dissatisfied with several GM's that I've owned that I wont give them another chance. That's just me, my experience. I have owned another Nissan that was a great car. And I have owned several other japaneses cars. My experience with Japanese cars of all makes has been fantastic. I've loved every one of them and have had great reliability out of them. They have all held up well and still drive like new cars many years later. Even the GMs I've had that did not have significant mechanical failures still drove like **** once they got more mileage on them and felt like buckets of crap. Again, this is my experience, with vehicles that I have owned. I don't really care what some report says that is based on hidden research or data. The 370 might turn out to be a huge pile of **** ( I seriously doubt it, it has a quality fit and finish), but it will be the first Jap car I've owned that is if that's the case. I'm going my way based on vehicles that I've owned, and no one on here can validly argue that or change my mind about it.

Consumer Reports are worthless, I agree. PPH industry numbers are much more useful. Nissan won't publish any like Ford or GM, though, that I have found. So we are all left guessing.

I had a friend with a 350Z. I had a 2001 WS6 Trans Am. her 350Z had way more rattles and a far shittier interior than my WS6. Experiences vary...

I'm not a fan-boy, nor do I have any strong emotion about an automobile company one way or the other. It's a machine, and as such--just the facts, please.

you know nothing relevant to the plaform from your Camaro experience. The chassis, engine, transmission, EVERYTHING are different from your car, in the new C6. Your opinion on the matter is as moot as me comparing my G20 to your 370Z and saying that the motor-mounts in your 370Z were poorly designed because the one's in my FWD G20/Sentra were. Pure ignorance.

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

May I ask why are you getting rid of your cool Z06 so soon boss?

I am moving, I want a smaller amount of cash outflow. Also, please read the post above this one about streetable power. I don't track it. I want a fun, nimble car that isn't necessarily built for the track all the way, as I won't be taking it there. A 370Z will save me roughly $350/mo on insurance and car-note combined. Very nice when contemplating a move and trying to save for a house/land. The Z06/Viper was my dream car in highschool, and I used it as the "carrot" to graduate and get a job. It served its purpose, was a totally awesome experience from ordering to watching them build it to slamming gears in the ZR1's at Spring Mountain Motorsports (included in purchase). I wouldn't trade the experience for the world.

But now, it is time to grow up and buy some land and build a house on it, and I realize after Spring Mountain that this car has so much more power than is ever prudent to apply on the street--since I don't track it, I'm wasting money IMO.

birdmanx1 · 02-01-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I am moving, I want a smaller amount of cash outflow. Also, please read the post above this one about streetable power. I don't track it. I want a fun, nimble car that isn't necessarily built for the track all the way, as I won't be taking it there. A 370Z will save me roughly $350/mo on insurance and car-note combined. Very nice when contemplating a move and trying to save for a house/land.

sounds like you had it well thought, you'll miss the power difference for sure.

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

sounds like you had it well thought, you'll miss the power difference for sure.

I will, but you can get used to anything. 505bhp feels slow when I drive my Z06 for a while, then when I drive my G20 for a while, 145bhp feels adequate. People are wonderfully adaptable. The 370Z still has decent power with great handling, looks, and a nicer interior than my Z06.

Besides, I have to change things up sooner or later, and there aren't many cars that weigh 3200# and have @450whp. Better accept/move on now, lol.

Supercars are too expensive of an addiction for me to get myself hooked before I hit 30. I think the 370Z will serve me well.

birdmanx1 · 02-01-2012, 09:50 PM

The 370z will serve you quite well...

ImportConvert · 02-01-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

The 370z will serve you quite well...

Thanks, I think so, too. The only thing I don't like about them is the blind spot. Will take me some time to learn to live with it.

Zemurray · 02-02-2012, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Considering I plan on buying a 370Z next month of Lou comes through for me, your statement and presumption is full of fail. Go back to trying to correlate suburbans to corvettes.

You comparing your POS camaro from over a decade ago and making an argument about an engine that you have never owned based on one SEVERAL GENERATIONS older is laughable.

As to your mustang idea, it's a great car, but it's nowhere near as fast as my corvette

It does have a higher-grade of interior, though, that I will agree on!

Ive owned a dozen GM's. Im talking about gm's quality in general (GM makes vettes you know), as per my observations of owning those, yet you still want to argue with me. You lived my life and drove those cars for me? Your existence on this forum is full of fail. You think the z06 is so great, yet you say you plan on trading one in the 370. You have pestered the poor sales guy to death, he's probably wishing he could take you hostage and work you over with a belt sander under a dim light. You have almost 3000 post and a hundred threads asking if you should get a z or not. Wtf is the matter with you? They kick you off the z06 forum? "full of fail" is something my 17 year old would say. You are starting to remind me of him and how I want to smack him every time he opens his mouth.

Zemurray · 02-02-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I hate nissan, my G20--Sentra derivative from 2002 is a POS. Your 370Z has to be a POS now because of this.

^^^ ^^^

Luckily, my brain doesn't operate like that, so I will buy a 370Z and enjoy it.

Good for you.

And btw, the 2013 mustang gt500 will eat a z06 for lunch and cost $30k less. Maybe you should get one of those.

nuTinmuch · 02-02-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

Good for you.

And btw, the 2013 mustang gt500 will eat a z06 for lunch and cost $30k less. Maybe you should get one of those.

Unlikely.

Zemurray · 02-02-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

Unlikely.

Unless ford is publishing false numbers, then I would say definitely. Go look it up. 650hp

nuTinmuch · 02-02-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

Unless ford is publishing false numbers, then I would say definitely. Go look it up. 650hp

More horsepower does not mean faster.

Zemurray · 02-02-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

More horsepower does not mean faster.

Ok buddy.

145 more hp and 130 ftlb more of torque in a car that weights roughly 200lbs more does

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And for the record I'm not promoting mustangs.

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