2012 Camaro ZL1 (was: Z28)

theDreamer · 02-09-2011, 01:29 PM

The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions.

HP sells cars bro. I have a neighbor with an old charger RT, and he's completely convinced he can smoke anything

.

Most people are just idiots when it comes to cars.

m4a1mustang · 02-09-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

HP sells cars bro. I have a neighbor with an old charger RT, and he's completely convinced he can smoke anything

.

Most people are just idiots when it comes to cars.

Truth.

Like all the Scion drivers that try to race me because they legitimately believe that they can win.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Truth.

Like all the Scion drivers that try to race me because they legitimately believe that they can win.

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

theDreamer · 02-09-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

I feel like I am being trolled here....yet at the same time believe it.

nuTinmuch · 02-09-2011, 01:52 PM

Food for thought.

When I was first car shopping, I was convinced to at least test drive the new Camaro. While I didn't like it, the salesman told me he could "make me a deal" -- so I stuck around and decided to listen.

Needless to say, he was talking 43 grand. I nearly shot out the door, propelled by laughter. I could've literally walked out with a Corvette and paid the same thing.

I doubt it is the same way now, but people -were- paying that when the Camaro first came out. Some people just love the car and believe it is amazing.

IMO, though, all of these performance fixes do nothing to fix the real problems with the car: weight, ergonomics (holy **** it is uncomfortable), and visibility that makes the Z feel like an air traffic control tower.

ThoriumHotdog · 02-09-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

These rumors start when one guy races a Mustang with a 5.0 badge.... but isn't actually a 5.0.

Hell, you can pick up those badges at Autozone right?

Vegitto-kun · 02-09-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

These rumors start when one guy races a Mustang with a 5.0 badge.... but isn't actually a 5.0.

Hell, you can pick up those badges at Autozone right?

time to make a nissan 570 GT

02-09-2011, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

02-09-2011, 01:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 19	Food for thought. When I was first car shopping, I was convinced to at least test drive the new Camaro. While I didn't like it, the salesman told me he could "make me a deal" -- so I stuck around and decided to listen. Needless to say, he was talking 43 grand. I nearly shot out the door, propelled by laughter. I could've literally walked out with a Corvette and paid the same thing. I doubt it is the same way now, but people -were- paying that when the Camaro first came out. Some people just love the car and believe it is amazing. IMO, though, all of these performance fixes do nothing to fix the real problems with the car: weight, ergonomics (holy **** it is uncomfortable), and visibility that makes the Z feel like an air traffic control tower. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

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