2012 Camaro ZL1 (was: Z28)

theDreamer · 02-09-2011, 01:29 PM

The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions.

HP sells cars bro. I have a neighbor with an old charger RT, and he's completely convinced he can smoke anything

.

Most people are just idiots when it comes to cars.

m4a1mustang · 02-09-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

HP sells cars bro. I have a neighbor with an old charger RT, and he's completely convinced he can smoke anything

.

Most people are just idiots when it comes to cars.

Truth.

Like all the Scion drivers that try to race me because they legitimately believe that they can win.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Truth.

Like all the Scion drivers that try to race me because they legitimately believe that they can win.

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

theDreamer · 02-09-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

I feel like I am being trolled here....yet at the same time believe it.

nuTinmuch · 02-09-2011, 01:52 PM

Food for thought.

When I was first car shopping, I was convinced to at least test drive the new Camaro. While I didn't like it, the salesman told me he could "make me a deal" -- so I stuck around and decided to listen.

Needless to say, he was talking 43 grand. I nearly shot out the door, propelled by laughter. I could've literally walked out with a Corvette and paid the same thing.

I doubt it is the same way now, but people -were- paying that when the Camaro first came out. Some people just love the car and believe it is amazing.

IMO, though, all of these performance fixes do nothing to fix the real problems with the car: weight, ergonomics (holy **** it is uncomfortable), and visibility that makes the Z feel like an air traffic control tower.

theDreamer · 02-09-2011, 01:55 PM

nuTinmuch, I hear they changed the steering wheel, so they fixed one thing.

nuTinmuch · 02-09-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

nuTinmuch, I hear they changed the steering wheel, so they fixed one thing.

You mean the lego man steering wheel?

ThoriumHotdog · 02-09-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The kill section of their forums is full of people claiming that with a "good driver" they can beat a 5.0, and they wind up believed their car is capable of it.

These rumors start when one guy races a Mustang with a 5.0 badge.... but isn't actually a 5.0.

Hell, you can pick up those badges at Autozone right?

Vegitto-kun · 02-09-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

These rumors start when one guy races a Mustang with a 5.0 badge.... but isn't actually a 5.0.

Hell, you can pick up those badges at Autozone right?

time to make a nissan 570 GT

HKYStormFront · 02-09-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

who would choose this over a corvette?

my thoughts exactly^^ i'd rather have a vette... but then again, i'd rather have other cars for that money too, 370z is one of them

ImportConvert · 02-09-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

my thoughts exactly^^ i'd rather have a vette... but then again, i'd rather have other cars for that money too, 370z is one of them

Someone who:

-Wants a back-seat
-Doesn't know 'vettes sell for $10-20K under sticker
-"Just likes the look"
-Was a kid when the ZL1 first came out and it was their dream car and now they can afford one so they buy it to get a bit of closure for their fantasy.

flashburn · 02-09-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Someone who:
-Was a kid when the ZL1 first came out and it was their dream car and now they can afford one so they buy it to get a bit of closure for their fantasy.

Well, that's the thing, the ZL1 was only produced in 1969, and only 69 of them at that. It was truly retarded of them not to call this a Z28, as at least that would of suckered a few people in.

HowStuffWorks "1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1: A Profile of a Muscle Car"

280z/300zx · 02-11-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Hmm... a loaded SS is going to take you well over $40k.

got ours for under 35k over a year ago when they where hot off the press.

Also for those wondering, my girlfriend traded her Corvette for the Camaro for the simple reason of needing a backseat. So yes, there are those out there that will choose the Camaro over the Vette simply because of the backseat. This ZL1 sounds like a blast but I wouldn't pay more than 45k for it personally.

Endgame · 02-11-2011, 01:36 AM

fail

i hope the boss whips it at the track. if not the boss, the GT500 will. this thing will weigh more than my wife's cx7....

02-09-2011, 01:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	The problem is the HP wars of the early years are not the same, but two companies are fighting like it is (GM & Dodge). Weight is the new factor and while that is slowly being pushed up across all companies, many are finding ways to keep the same weight with tougher restrictions. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

02-09-2011, 01:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 17	Food for thought. When I was first car shopping, I was convinced to at least test drive the new Camaro. While I didn't like it, the salesman told me he could "make me a deal" -- so I stuck around and decided to listen. Needless to say, he was talking 43 grand. I nearly shot out the door, propelled by laughter. I could've literally walked out with a Corvette and paid the same thing. I doubt it is the same way now, but people -were- paying that when the Camaro first came out. Some people just love the car and believe it is amazing. IMO, though, all of these performance fixes do nothing to fix the real problems with the car: weight, ergonomics (holy **** it is uncomfortable), and visibility that makes the Z feel like an air traffic control tower. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

02-09-2011, 01:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	nuTinmuch, I hear they changed the steering wheel, so they fixed one thing. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	fail i hope the boss whips it at the track. if not the boss, the GT500 will. this thing will weigh more than my wife's cx7....