New Porsche 911 Speedster Limited Edition

HKYStormFront · 09-29-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The word is that Porsche holds the Cayman back, but that it would actually be a better setup because the 911 has its iconic/outdated rear engine setup.

that is correct^^

HKYStormFront · 09-29-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hdskull

There's also GT2 RS

that's a new model for MY 2011, the list he provided is for 2010

Zaggeron · 09-29-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

um...... the pistons and rods are the only difference that i'm aware of (at least it used to be before the carrera got direct injection with the 997.5 model). the transmissions are the same, just regeared with a taller 1st gear to make sure the caymanS isn't faster than the carrera 2. it wouldn't cost them any more to make the cayman faster, it's already got the chassis and brakes for it, porsche just holds it back. irregardless, the caymanS is still a performance bargain for the price, especially considering its one of the best cars you will ever drive... ever. it's that good, trust me

I believe that the Cayman is good to drive. But, I was under the impression (perhaps via Porscheophile 911 propaganda) that the Cayman and Boxster engines are not built to the same standards as the engines for the flagship 911 models. If true, then bringing it up 30 some HP might overly stress the engine without the better tolerances that a better made engine has. It might be entirely possible to add the missing HP for under 17k (the difference between the base 911 and the Cayman S), but could they do it in a way that maintains build quality and reliability?

HKYStormFront · 09-29-2010, 08:35 PM

i worked at a porsche dealership, trust me... they are the same

the cayman may not have quite as robust bearings but the block, heads, etc are all the same. there are different intake and exhaust manifolds due to the different car layout but that's about it on the physical parts. the 911's engine sits completely at the rear of the car with the flywheel facing forward going straight into the trans/diff. the boxter/cayman is identical, just flipped around with the engine in front of the rear axle line going into the trans/diff combo

Zaggeron · 09-29-2010, 08:45 PM

Interesting .... So perhaps it's only their top end models that are built significantly better. In any event, from a marketing perspective a 69 - 72k Cayman doesn't make sense unless they are planning to drop the 911 ... and they tried that once already

bigaudiofanat · 09-29-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

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I am in love with this interior.

shadoquad · 09-29-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Interesting .... So perhaps it's only their top end models that are built significantly better. In any event, from a marketing perspective a 69 - 72k Cayman doesn't make sense unless they are planning to drop the 911 ... and they tried that once already

Are you referring to the 928? That was a beast.

I mean, I completely agree that they know what they're doing from a business perspective. Again, it's working. But I think the Cayman could be tricked out to compete. I'd love to see it.

Of course, rumor has it that part of the reason the Fiero was killed was because it was stealing Corvette sales.

Zaggeron · 09-29-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Of course, rumor has it that part of the reason the Fiero was killed was because it was stealing Corvette sales.

370Zsteve · 09-29-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

kind of ugly from this angle

Yup, that's probably also the 370Z Roadsters's least attractive angle as well. Gotta put all that roof hardware someplace!

shadoquad · 09-29-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

You laugh, but those things were silly fast for the money. flaming deathtraps though they were, it's still the only nameplate in GM history that was profitable every year they sold it.

Edit: but that's getting off topic.

370Zsteve · 09-29-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I am in love with this interior.

It is pretty snazzy the contrast is sick

Ztoon · 09-29-2010, 09:25 PM

That back ends looks versatile. Would make a great washboard or cheese grater.

spearfish25 · 09-29-2010, 09:32 PM

$200k for a retro-looking convertible with marginal performance increases that can't touch their Turbo model. Pass...

FuszNissan · 09-29-2010, 09:35 PM

Wow...it looks like...well...every porsche out there

Zaggeron · 09-29-2010, 09:46 PM

No love for the Porsche? Well with only 356 of them being made people will probably end up paying more than 200k for them even if that is the list price.

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