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Originally Posted by ImportConvert Hrmm...my CX5 has 250hp/310tq and is AWD. Where did you get your specs from? The only way I'll own a vehicle anymore is if it's "pushed"

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Old 04-05-2019, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hrmm...my CX5 has 250hp/310tq and is AWD. Where did you get your specs from?

The only way I'll own a vehicle anymore is if it's "pushed" from both ends. AWD is superior, IMO, especially in inclement weather, etc.

That said, it's more composed and better sorted than the 370Z ever dreamed of being (mine, anyways, 2012 Sport/Touring). That does not mean it was objectively faster, just that it was much better executed, and doesn't skitter and dance and break loose and bounce around like a pogo-stick when you encounter irregularities like the Z does. A vehicle doesn't have to turn better lap times, etc. to be better sorted. The Z is definitely faster, its suspension is just woefully underdamped compared to every other vehicle I've owned, including my CX5. I can upset a 370Z without even applying the gas beyond maintaining speed. Just give it a dip or irregularity and watch it step sideways/lose traction. My Dad hated going out to supper with me if we took the Z because it did it on overpasses just cruising at the speed limit. Unnerving.

As to the triple digits and curvy roads...well, depends on the road and all that, pretty subjective, your statement there.

My advice is go to a dealer and drive a CX5 GTR/Sg model. It won't surprise you with the speed with only 250bhp but the suspension might make you take notice, and 310# of torque at 2000rpm sure is nice.

...........i wasn't gonna jump into this thread. However, did you really compare a CX5 to a Z and go even further to say it has better handling? i think it may have been in need of a driver mod if thats your findings

what in the actual fuck i hope you're just trolling.

if serious.
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...........i wasn't gonna jump into this thread. However, did you really compare a CX5 to a Z and go even further to say it has better handling? i think it may have been in need of a driver mod if thats your findings

what in the actual fuck i hope you're just trolling.

if serious.
Not trolling as hard as Nissan was when they set up that suspension. Bouncy bouncy.

Seriously though, you guys are trying to compare 370z to Camaro and Mustang, and that makes even less sense. 80hp gap between my cx5 and your Z, and my cx5 has 40# more torque than your Z. Camaro has what, 118hp more than your Z? Yet you compare...and then we have people comparing a Z to corvette handling...even more ludicrous. Ive owned a Z, a Z06, and 2 CX5s. Go drive them all. Get back to us.

Im just commenting on suspension though. The cx5 gtr is much more composed than the 370z in the corners, etc. if any ireegularities exist. Its just a better balanced suspension regwrding rebound control. No amount of driver mod can overcome the fact that when you hit an expansion joint, the rear end is going to dance sideways in the corners, etc or when you encounter dips at speed, its going to break traction. It can only help in dealing with those foibles. Foibles unique in my driving experience to the 370z, compared to the other cars mentioned.

Seems that Im not the only one who notices the finer nuances of suspensions...
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...nissan-370z-2/
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While the suspension is certainly firm, it takes the edge off road imperfections and no longer tortures the car’s occupants. Evenly spaced expansion joints at highway speeds can provoke rhythmic bouncing, but the amplitude is much less (and so much less likely to induce nausea) than before.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...omaniac-14710/

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1 fast, good handling 2010 Nismo 370Z: Check. (The "good-handling" part does come at the expense of an overly bouncy ride—we're definitely not talking BMW M3-like suspension calibration here. But the Nismo sure can "get it done" through any reasonably smooth turns.)
https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...g-review-notes

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The 370Z does have a bouncy ride, which an owner would have to get used to. And this is coming from an enthusiast who would take a Caterham for a daily driver.

Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...#ixzz5kFl4mNG8
Pretty much mirroring what I've said all along...

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Not trolling as hard as Nissan was when they set up that suspension. Bouncy bouncy.

Seriously though, you guys are trying to compare 370z to Camaro and Mustang, and that makes even less sense. 80hp gap between my cx5 and your Z, and my cx5 has 40# more torque than your Z. Camaro has what, 118hp more than your Z? Yet you compare...

Im just commenting on suspension though. The cx5 gtr is much more composed than the 370z in the corners, etc. if any ireegularities exist. Its just a better balanced suspension regwrding rebound control.
well then if you're serious.......

i'll address your comments in order.

the Z is comparable to mustang and camaro regards of HP gap due to the fact it can handle quite well. i have played around against both cars and the Z holds up well to the point depending on launch i've kept up to and/or beat a new 5.0 mustang.....in mexico of course.

as for the suspension, what was wrong with your Z that you experience was that bad? also what is your age? seems to be weak, whiny, older guys who say the ride and suspension sucks and buy soccer mom SUVs. although i know multiple distinguished older owners in here who roll on full race setups like gangsters.

i'm pushed my Z on stock suspension/brakes very hard and it feels great. the one failing part i've experienced was rolling a tire sidewall. those tires got switched at the end of that season.

and yea i'm sure an MX5 feels more composed when you can't get it past 80mph.
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well then if you're serious.......

i'll address your comments in order.

the Z is comparable to mustang and camaro regards of HP gap due to the fact it can handle quite well. i have played around against both cars and the Z holds up well to the point depending on launch i've kept up to and/or beat a new 5.0 mustang.....in mexico of course.

as for the suspension, what was wrong with your Z that you experience was that bad? also what is your age? seems to be weak, whiny, older guys who say the ride and suspension sucks and buy soccer mom SUVs. although i know multiple distinguished older owners in here who roll on full race setups like gangsters.

i'm pushed my Z on stock suspension/brakes very hard and it feels great. the one failing part i've experienced was rolling a tire sidewall. those tires got switched at the end of that season.

and yea i'm sure an MX5 feels more composed when you can't get it past 80mph.
I was in my late 20s when I had my 370z, and part of my observation comes from that I went from a c6 z06 with a much more buttoned down suspension to the Z. My sole complaint about the Z was that it was oversprung and underdamped for any environment with ripples or bumps or anything. Even Spring Mountain would be annoying with the dip on the back curves with with poor rebound control.

I find the flaw amusing and even more offputting, considering even my CUVs dont share it.
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...Ive owned a Z, a Z06, and 2 CX5s. Go drive them all. Get back to us.
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Several forum members have done just that; they've have driven vettes, caymans, stangs, and all other beasts. I know because I read thru those opinions closely before I purchased my 2015. Now that I've owned the car for over yr I agree with the majority. My Z suspension feels well damped, however our roads a decent and my Z is low mileage and in great condition. My take away from your experience is that perhaps the 2012 had dampening issues or *your* particular car had issues. Perhaps your road are really that bad or maybe Nissan sorted things out in later models. Either way, you are swimming upstream on this forum
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Several forum members have done just that; they've have driven vettes, caymans, stangs, and all other beasts. I know because I read thru those opinions closely before I purchased my 2015. Now that I've owned the car for over yr I agree with the majority. My Z suspension feels well damped, however our roads a decent and my Z is low mileage and in great condition. My take away from your experience is that perhaps the 2012 had dampening issues or *your* particular car had issues. Perhaps your road are really that bad or maybe Nissan sorted things out in later models. Either way, you are swimming upstream on this forum
They changed shocks and struts in 2013. I will never own another Nissan again, so I cant comment on the effect of that change.
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They changed shocks and struts in 2013. I will never own another Nissan again, so I cant comment on the effect of that change.
i just put 2015 nismo components on my 09 last year and they feel almost the same as my 09 sport setup. a touch stiffer.


idk how you guys all hated the Z that much.

i bought a GTR and still kept my Z. love that car. it's now my summer daily.
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So, Why are you here?????
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I was unaware you had to desire to, or own, a Z to be here? You will note I stay in Lounge. I have no desire to delve into the Z or any other Nissan car, so I stay in offtopic areas.
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So, You are a TROLL.....


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