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ImportConvert · 03-25-2019, 11:13 AM

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

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Originally Posted by Falconquey

. All this hard talk about I'd never this or that... FFS let's get bloody real here, we're all driving Nissans gang! No better than GM. To think otherwise is comical. Nissan isn't even the best of the Japanese brands for that matter.
The only thing that's working for Nissan anymore is they happen to produce 2 unicorn sports cars. The rest is mostly Asian trash.

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

ChopsZ · 03-25-2019, 12:49 PM

I don't know about Nissan being the Chrysler of Japan. That's a bit harsh.

The only "real" issue I have with my Z is that the damn seatbelts gett wet when it rains hard. That, the crappy clutch still sucks even with the RJM v.3 pedal installed, and the fact that the car comes base with a stupid open diff.

Other than that, I'm quite happy with my Z, though I'm still fighting with those clunking BC coilovers in the rear and now the RJM pedal squeaks all the time. Annoying as hell, but no fault of the car or brand itself.

sunkist350z · 03-25-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

I had an s2000 with tranny problems, was sent to the dealer twice for the 2nd gear grind. One of the worst sports cars I have ever owned. The Z on the other hand has been a charm for the past 6 years, same goes for the 350zDE I had for couple of years and 350zHR for four years. As far as calling it the "Chrysler" of Japan is just plain wrong.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

I had an s2000 with tranny problems, was sent to the dealer twice for the 2nd gear grind. One of the worst sports cars I have ever owned. The Z on the other hand has been a charm for the past 6 years, same goes for the 350zDE I had for couple of years and 350zHR for four years. As far as calling it the "Chrysler" of Japan is just plain wrong.

Samples of one. Somewhere out there is a Jeep owner with 200K miles and nothing gone wrong. I'm just saying people dog on Nissan, and both my Nissan and Infiniti products had issues, so I moved on. My Mazda products have been much more reliable so far, and I've put more miles on 'em.

Zingston · 03-26-2019, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Samples of one. Somewhere out there is a Jeep owner with 200K miles and nothing gone wrong. I'm just saying people dog on Nissan, and both my Nissan and Infiniti products had issues, so I moved on. My Mazda products have been much more reliable so far, and I've put more miles on 'em.

Yep. I'm that Jeep owner, however, only 130k so far. The 06 hemi 5.7 has been awesome. It just keeps on truckin!

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Yep. I'm that Jeep owner, however, only 130k so far. The 06 hemi 5.7 has been awesome. It just keeps on truckin!

I wanted to like my 2010 JGC Hemi/qd2, but...

N23
Leaking transmission (2x)
Rotted UCA bushings
Broken sunroof guides
Water pump

And other wonderful things, all before 100k miles. I ditched it.

Zingston · 03-26-2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I wanted to like my 2010 JGC Hemi/qd2, but...

N23
Leaking transmission (2x)
Rotted UCA bushings
Broken sunroof guides
Water pump

And other wonderful things, all before 100k miles. I ditched it.

That sucks! I had to replace my Commander's water pump also, but that was at 128k miles. So more of an expected replacement as those parts are only expected to last so long anyway.

Funny how cars go given I'd say my best experience with a car i've ever had was my Jaguar XJS, and worst was my Mazda 929 (there was not a single component I didn't replace on that car before 45k miles, Monumental POS! LOL!). You'd figure it would have been the other way around. Or at least the Jaguar would have been at the bottom of my list.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

That sucks! I had to replace my Commander's water pump also, but that was at 128k miles. So more of an expected replacement as those parts are only expected to last so long anyway.

Funny how cars go given I'd say my best experience with a car i've ever had was my Jaguar XJS, and worst was my Mazda 929 (there was not a single component I didn't replace on that car before 45k miles, Monumental POS! LOL!). You'd figure it would have been the other way around. Or at least the Jaguar would have been at the bottom of my list.

What's crazy is that every domestic I've owned, nearly, has had the water pump die at around 80K miles, while none of my JDM cars have ever had one die. My Infiniti did have the radiator die, though. And the transmission. And the motormounts. I'm sure my 370Z would have had stuff die if I'd kept it longer than 34K miles, too, considering the brakes had issues and the power steering pump would get super loud after I drove it hard and the transmission would always grind on the first shift of the day, especially if it was raining out (go figure...). Mainly, my Nissan products felt = to my Chrysler experience, so I have had no impetus to try them again and went with Mazda again, after my CX5 had the fuel pressure regulator go out at 106K miles (literally nothing else broke in the life of the vehicle except that, unless you count things like trim from a huge chunk of concrete that flew up, or the rear diff because I submerged it crossing a stream and didn't change the fluid like I should have---after another 2 months of driving (and no bearing whine!, it was the AWD clutch solenoid that went out! Fluid looked like a frappachino!).

I am hoping my CX5 GT Reserve lives just as storied a life, but got the 10y/150K mile bumper-bumper warranty on it just in case. Because it has a TON of tech in it, plus a turbo.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

I drove it on paddles all the time... So I didn't really get to experience that as a performance flaw. If I had it on auto. I was also in cruise control

When did u come back import? Haven't seen u in ages?

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I drove it on paddles all the time... So I didn't really get to experience that as a performance flaw. If I had it on auto. I was also in cruise control

When did u come back import? Haven't seen u in ages?

Been a while...

I don't understand paddles when a properly tuned transmission gives me the same exact things I'd do for myself with paddles. That's how sorted out the CX5's gearbox is.

ChopsZ · 03-26-2019, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

For strictly drag racing, sure. For everyday driving, nope. I will take the manual over the auto any day of the week. I prefer choosing my own gears and how long I want to stay in them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2019, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

For strictly drag racing, sure. For everyday driving, nope. I will take the manual over the auto any day of the week. I prefer choosing my own gears and how long I want to stay in them.

That's exactly how the paddles work? Lol. Geez. And I've done well on track with paddles. Not drag racing. Where do you get these definitions from? On track or street. Manual Z's ain't really efffin with me. I was about half a second quicker than most dudes rowing there own. N that's me hitting paddles. Not leaving it in D. Which tells me not too many dudes even have the kinda skill to stay next to an auto.

ImportConvert · 03-28-2019, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's exactly how the paddles work? Lol. Geez. And I've done well on track with paddles. Not drag racing. Where do you get these definitions from? On track or street. Manual Z's ain't really efffin with me. I was about half a second quicker than most dudes rowing there own. N that's me hitting paddles. Not leaving it in D. Which tells me not too many dudes even have the kinda skill to stay next to an auto.

Agreed 100%, but I always found manual more engaging, and since I don't make a living from racing, I'd prefer a manual in a sports car, 1/2 second slower or not.

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