Nissan IM concept for those dreaming about Tesla

cossie1600 · 03-11-2019, 11:43 AM

No fixes are going to happen overnight, all we can do is minimize our output if possible.
This applies the same with natural resources, food and many other things.

cossie1600 · 03-11-2019, 12:33 PM

We will trade you Trump for JT, we will add Ivanka and Jared.

Nissan received state incentives to move to TN, the state incentive is nothing new. Every state tries to lure business with incentives. You should call all these big companies welfare users.

The tax credit was used to encourage sale of zero or super low emission vehicle. You are right it helped launch the product, the government did it to encourage zero to low emission vehicle. Given 8% of new cars sold in CA have a plug now, I would say the incentive did its job to encourage more sales. CA sold 2 million cars last year, I think all of Canada sold that much.

Toyota Mirai is doing great, selling about 300 copies a month. Leases are $400 per month with zero down. You can get a free hydrogen card too.

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I think I am quite clear about the difference between a loan and a grant. I never mentioned loans. "Government handouts and incentives" was the term I used, and the Nevada deal was a doozie. Your knee-jerk response is just wanting to defend the indefensible. And you can have JT and his tom-foolery if you want him, 'cuz we don't. ;-)

The tax incentives were there as a government gift to manufacturers of EV's, who didn't therefore have to produce a competitive product. It was far easier to lobby politicians and charm them into thinking it would look "green" on their CV, than to do the work to get the cost of the car and the technology down. Or to convince consumers to pay the extra cost and "take one for the team" as it were.

I'm not against electrics. But I think that Fuel Cell will be the way of the future and for governments to force the market's hand like this is not appropriate.

ZCanadian · 03-11-2019, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

No fixes are going to happen overnight, all we can do is minimize our output if possible.
This applies the same with natural resources, food and many other things.

on that we are in agreement.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

We will trade you Trump for JT, we will add Ivanka and Jared.

...

No deal!

Zingston · 03-11-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

on that we are in agreement.

No deal!

Well, that deal could be worse. I mean he could have been offering Hillary.

cossie1600 · 03-11-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

on that we are in agreement.

No deal!

We add a player to be named later? Our first round draft pick mike pence? We will eat some salary too

cossie1600 · 03-11-2019, 04:35 PM

We will even tAke the cocaine guy from Ontario

ZCanadian · 03-11-2019, 04:37 PM

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We will even tAke the cocaine guy from Ontario

Go on... You've got my interest. LOL

Rusty · 03-11-2019, 06:09 PM

We will get you all the socialists running for president, plus AOC and Omar. We want nothing back in return.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	No fixes are going to happen overnight, all we can do is minimize our output if possible. This applies the same with natural resources, food and many other things.

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