Tesla Roadster 2020

ZCanadian · 04-07-2019, 09:31 AM

Given Tesla’s inability to meet delivery deadlines or targets in genreral (to say nothing about profitability), I hope this vehicle materializes in the timeframe you are hoping for.

Porsche’s Taycan lineup, with similar timing and priced between Panamera and Cayenne, will hurt Tesla. It needn’t be a death punch, but I don’t know how much more that company can take.

ImportConvert · 04-07-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Given Tesla’s inability to meet delivery deadlines or targets in genreral (to say nothing about profitability), I hope this vehicle materializes in the timeframe you are hoping for.

Porsche’s Taycan lineup, with similar timing and priced between Panamera and Cayenne, will hurt Tesla. It needn’t be a death punch, but I don’t know how much more that company can take.

I have zero faith in Tesla, as a company, but OP probably knows all this at least as well as we do, and decided to shoot his shot, so I'm pullin' for 'em!

Baronsmokes · 04-07-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Given Tesla’s inability to meet delivery deadlines or targets in general (to say nothing about profitability), I hope this vehicle materializes in the timeframe you are hoping for.

Porsche’s Taycan lineup, with similar timing and priced between Panamera and Cayenne, will hurt Tesla. It needn’t be a death punch, but I don’t know how much more that company can take.

Tesla has done a poor job of meeting promised deadlines.I think Musk makes deadlines that are not realistic.I would not be surprised to see my car late 2021 or early 2022.

Tesla has a lot of irons in the fire.New crossover.Semi truck production.They are also working on pick up truck.Model S needs a refresh.

Cars can have issues with fit and finish because they are rushing to get them out the door.The model 3 is more complicated to build than it should be.

Tough time to be in car business.Detroit car makers are dumping sedans because they do not sell.People want trucks and SUVs.

Tesla is top heavy with sedans.

The Porsche Taycam would compete against the model S.No competition for the Roadster.Taycam looks nicer to me than S.
Specs on Porsche are nothing special.300 mile range.0-60 3.5 seconds. Model S is faster and has longer range.

What they do make a big deal out of is fast chargeing.They use a 350 volt system to charge.This is great for home but network needs to be built for Porsche.This is faster than Tesla.Both cars will charge to 80% in 30 minutes.
Fast charging wears out batteries faster.

I have never seen an auto maker do so much in such a short time as Tesla.The company will be 15 in July.Most start up car companies fail long before that.

Will get tougher for Tesla as other big money companies get in the game.

Tesla has the advantage in battery technology.They can pack more power into lighter batteries.

Who knows what electric sports car we will see in future.Compition is a good thing.

Maybee we will see a merger?

ImportConvert · 04-07-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes

Tesla has done a poor job of meeting promised deadlines.I think Musk makes deadlines that are not realistic.I would not be surprised to see my car late 2021 or early 2022.

Tesla has a lot of irons in the fire.New crossover.Semi truck production.They are also working on pick up truck.Model S needs a refresh.

Cars can have issues with fit and finish because they are rushing to get them out the door.The model 3 is more complicated to build than it should be.

Tough time to be in car business.Detroit car makers are dumping sedans because they do not sell.People want trucks and SUVs.

Tesla is top heavy with sedans.

The Porsche Taycam would compete against the model S.No competition for the Roadster.Taycam looks nicer to me than S.
Specs on Porsche are nothing special.300 mile range.0-60 3.5 seconds. Model S is faster and has longer range.

What they do make a big deal out of is fast chargeing.They use a 350 volt system to charge.This is great for home but network needs to be built for Porsche.This is faster than Tesla.Both cars will charge to 80% in 30 minutes.
Fast charging wears out batteries faster.

I have never seen an auto maker do so much in such a short time as Tesla.The company will be 15 in July.Most start up car companies fail long before that.

Will get tougher for Tesla as other big money companies get in the game.

Tesla has the advantage in battery technology.They can pack more power into lighter batteries.

Who knows what electric sports car we will see in future.Compition is a good thing.

Maybee we will see a merger?

Tesla would have failed many times over if Musk didn't rob peter to pay paul, with the rest of his ventures. The 4th quarter of 2018 was literally the first time in those 15 years that Tesla posted profits in two quarters, back to back (it only posted a profit for ONE OTHER QUARTER since 2015..., as of Dec 2018). That year their over-all loss was $1B.

I personally hate Tesla and the hype around them, but you, OP, have worked hard, and I respect that and truly hope you get what you want, how you want.

Baronsmokes · 04-07-2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Tesla would have failed many times over if Musk didn't rob peter to pay paul, with the rest of his ventures. The 4th quarter of 2018 was literally the first time in those 15 years that Tesla posted profits in two quarters, back to back (it only posted a profit for ONE OTHER QUARTER since 2015..., as of Dec 2018). That year their over-all loss was $1B.

I personally hate Tesla and the hype around them, but you, OP, have worked hard, and I respect that and truly hope you get what you want, how you want.

Similar business plan as Amazon.I could never pull trigger on stock as this book seller kept loosing money.They lost money year after year as they where building infosturture.Look at the monster today.You are right about Tesla(Elan Musk)I do not care that much about company but I do want that Roadster.

0ne more note.The car company is named after Nikola Tesla.I have the upmost respect for him.I think Tesla was one of the greatest who every walked the earth.People get Elan Musk,Tesla motors and Nikola Tesla mixed up.

ZCanadian · 04-08-2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes

Tesla has done a poor job of meeting promised deadlines.I think Musk makes deadlines that are not realistic.I would not be surprised to see my car late 2021 or early 2022.

Tesla has a lot of irons in the fire.New crossover.Semi truck production.They are also working on pick up truck.Model S needs a refresh.

Cars can have issues with fit and finish because they are rushing to get them out the door.The model 3 is more complicated to build than it should be.

Tough time to be in car business.Detroit car makers are dumping sedans because they do not sell.People want trucks and SUVs.

Tesla is top heavy with sedans.

The Porsche Taycam would compete against the model S.No competition for the Roadster.Taycam looks nicer to me than S.
Specs on Porsche are nothing special.300 mile range.0-60 3.5 seconds. Model S is faster and has longer range.

What they do make a big deal out of is fast chargeing.They use a 350 volt system to charge.This is great for home but network needs to be built for Porsche.This is faster than Tesla.Both cars will charge to 80% in 30 minutes.
Fast charging wears out batteries faster.

I have never seen an auto maker do so much in such a short time as Tesla.The company will be 15 in July.Most start up car companies fail long before that.

Will get tougher for Tesla as other big money companies get in the game.

Tesla has the advantage in battery technology.They can pack more power into lighter batteries.

Who knows what electric sports car we will see in future.Compition is a good thing.

Maybee we will see a merger?

Thanks for the detailed reply.
And i do hope to see pix of you in your Roadster. Think it will be a very cool car. Fingers crossed for sooner than we both fear!

Baronsmokes · 05-21-2019, 11:09 PM

Tesla making me nervous.Cash problems.Hope to see Roadster in production.

Baronsmokes · 06-06-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes

Tesla making me nervous.Cash problems.Hope to see Roadster in production.

I was so excited about this car.

Dealing with Tesla sucks.Never respond to e mails.You can not talk to customer support by phone.Only by e mail or chat.Worst customer service.

I have concerns about Tesla having to restructure debt load.

I decided to cancel order.Have sent form 3 times to Tesla.They say they do not have.I show them copies of the email.You need to resend.In my opinion I would say they make this difficult on purpose.They have a lot of my money they are getting interest off.

Even if the Tesla Roadster turns out to be a great car I will not buy one if I have to deal with their customer support.

Will wait for other automakers to catch up and build a fast roadster.

Baronsmokes · 06-06-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes

I was so excited about this car.

Dealing with Tesla sucks.Never respond to e mails.You can not talk to customer support by phone.Only by e mail or chat.Worst customer service.

I have concerns about Tesla having to restructure debt load.

I decided to cancel order.Have sent form 3 times to Tesla.They say they do not have.I show them copies of the email.You need to resend.In my opinion I would say they make this difficult on purpose.They have a lot of my money they are getting interest off.

Even if the Tesla Roadster turns out to be a great car I will not buy one if I have to deal with their customer support.

Will wait for other automakers to catch up and build a fast roadster.

Tesla now has a new policy on their forum.No longer open to everyone.Only current owners can post.

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04-07-2019, 09:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60275	Given Tesla’s inability to meet delivery deadlines or targets in genreral (to say nothing about profitability), I hope this vehicle materializes in the timeframe you are hoping for. Porsche’s Taycan lineup, with similar timing and priced between Panamera and Cayenne, will hurt Tesla. It needn’t be a death punch, but I don’t know how much more that company can take.

05-21-2019, 11:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Baronsmokes A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Bismarck Posts: 1,078 Drives: 2016 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 477010	Tesla making me nervous.Cash problems.Hope to see Roadster in production.