New Mustang 5.0L confirmed HP

nogoodname

take a step back guys... This is too funny

also, we're in 2010 in a matter of days.. Ha

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Run and get your box of kleenex, that Ford would blow the doors off your Z!

Pharmacist

based on what? do you have any performance data or have you seen any performance tests that would back up such a ridiculously nonsensical claim?

a car with less horsepower, more mass, skinnier wheels and tires, weaker brakes and ancient suspension would blow the door off a more powerful lighter car with better wheels tires brakes and a modern advanced track tuned suspension. yep, makes lots of sense

MightyBobo

Little fun never hurts

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Very interesting

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shabarivas

Ok ... stop fooling yourself... the thing has 400 ponies... thats a LOT... it will rape you in the high end and i am sure there exists a track where the stang would beat the piss out of the Z... and vice versa... but if you are talking about which car is going to be more rewarding to drive / feel / live etc - thats a different story...

Pharmacist

typical american mentality. always obsessed with straight line speed. the only track where a mustang would win would be an oval. in fact that's the whole raison d'etre of the mustang, typical american design, just keep dropping bigger and bigger engines making more and more horsepower, while utilizing chassis and suspension design from the dinosaur era. mustang is no bargain, if anything it's incredibly overpriced for what you get. im sure if nissan dropped a 5 liter v8 it would make in excess of 450 hp and the z would smoke any mustang even in a straight line

Pharmacist

no problem though, with attitudes like those of the above comments, ford knows it can keep offering the solid axle mustang well into the 22nd century and people will still buy it.

m4a1mustang

The live axle argument is old and tired.

You obviously don't see the reason for keeping it so it's probably not worth explaining it to you, but against better judgment I will make an attempt anyways:

The majority of Mustang enthusiasts like to drag race their cars.

It's that simple. If enthusiast owners predominately preferred to track their cars, it would have an IRS.

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theDreamer

Correct.
And as I was told, Ford even asked Mustang owners, projected buyers, etc. right before the 2005 new body style came our on what they wanted, IRS or solid rear axle? Guess which one won?

While I am a huge fan or IRS and do agree that the solid rear axle is a dated technology, and probably would own a Mustang if it had IRS. The fact still remains that Ford has taken this dated technology and made it work great in the real world. You had the track package, which is a factory addition, and the Mustang can take corners very well against cars with IRS. Given it has the horsepower and torque to back it up, it becomes a very heavy track contender.

Also, guess what car won GT1 this year at the SCCA National Championship? Ford Mustang

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Clearly you've never driven an 05+ Mustang.

MightyBobo

So...what if the Mustang turned a faster lap time than the 370Z at a price less than, Pharmacist?

Old technology or not, >400 ponies is a good chunk of power, and you're doing nothing but being elitist/ignorant to any car that doesn't have an IRS. Just because you don't like the Mustang doesn't mean that legions of other people should. By virtue of viewing the 370 like you view the Mustang, the 370 is a pig (almost 3400 lbs - slightly less than my old 4th Gen Camaro) of a 2-seater sports car that should weigh less and be smaller considering it has NO utility at all.

Ford has proven that it can make a solid selling car out of the Mustang, and just because you're jealous that Ford can sell them like hot cakes shows. The VAST majority of people who buy them are going to do nothing but daily drive them anyway, so what do they care if the car has an IRS or a live axle? For that matter, wheres YOUR track credentials? You talk a lot of smack for someone who I don't recall posting any auto-x or track stories...

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Pharmacist

so much nonsene in your post. first of all, a stock mustang would NEVER defeat a 370z on a track actually oriented towards handling and cornering ability.

there you go again with the typical american mentality. you make it seem like a car is no more than the sum of its horsepower. 400 hp big deal. you can get a turbo 4 banger evo X with minimal mods to make that much power, of course it also has excellent handling to go with it.

yeah, i guess all those other automakers that abandoned solid axles in favor of irs were all motivated by ignorance and elitism

and weight-wise, the 370z may not be light but it's not very heavy either compared to other cars of similar size. heck the aston one 77 with all its fancy carbon fibre body i think is only 100 lbs less than the z.

yeah, ford is able to sell lots of mustangs, so what? dodge also made a successful selling car out of the caravan, and toyota sells tens of thousands of corollas. what's your point? Meanwhile, mclaren had a tough time selling the f1. what is your point?

and yeah, the majority of ferrari and lambo owners never track their cars and only drive them on the street to show off. so what? should ferrari cut costs by downgrading the 458 italia back to solid axle, front engine, 5 sp manual, sliding one piston calipers, etc.....

and what do my track credentials have any relevance? this is a topic about the mustang, not my driving abilities. focus on topic