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No JUKE.... Im almost sure that means no Z either.

Originally Posted by RicerX Love or hate the Juke, this does not bode well for things like the Z and GT-R. They're slowly eliminating anything borne of imagination from the

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Old 05-29-2017, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Love or hate the Juke, this does not bode well for things like the Z and GT-R.

They're slowly eliminating anything borne of imagination from the lineup. I just don't understand it.

At this point, I would bet the house on 2018 being the Z's final year.
The news 2 weeks ago stated that by the year 2030, gas cars will be too expensive for middle class people to own and we will be forced to drive electric chariots or some dumb shyt like that. Are we as a society going to allow this to happen. I feel like I'm losing a freedom and a right. It's really angering me!!!
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Electrics can be just as enjoyable to drive, if not more so, than ICEs. Check out the flat torque curve of electric motors.

As battery technology progresses and economy-of-scale kicks in, things will just get better and cheaper.

See also: Tesla Motors

But, yeah, I think most people on this forum would miss the sound and vibration of an ICE. I know I would. But I've learned to live with a lot a changes - some of them I actually like.
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Electrics can be just as enjoyable to drive, if not more so, than ICEs. Check out the flat torque curve of electric motors.

As battery technology progresses and economy-of-scale kicks in, things will just get better and cheaper.

See also: Tesla Motors

But, yeah, I think most people on this forum would miss the sound and vibration of an ICE. I know I would. But I've learned to live with a lot a changes - some of them I actually like.
You're not telling about anything new. I understand the benefits of electric motors. It does nothing for me. If I wanted that experience my anger wouldn't exist.

There is no fun in a electric car other than sudden torque. No noise, no vibrations, no feel, no senses.... nothing. I don't wanna be driven by a computer in an electric chariot in a few years.

I want gasoline... failed emissions and high horsepower. I want loud engines high revs and a loud exhaust.

Electric go karts are for circle tracks in amusement parks.
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I feel like I'm losing a freedom and a right. It's really angering me!!!
Your right to drive an internal combustion engine-powered car?

The rear-wheel drive sports car like the Z is a niche vehicle, and a $30,000 niche that's shrinking as technology in that category advances. Not enough people are buying the low-tech (normally aspirated, for god's sake!!) sports cars....they're buying in the $60k-$90k range. The Corvette has consistently sold 30,000 units a year since 2014. The Z is currently at about 6000 (2016) and it's been declining. A lot. I suspect that the only reason the Z is still alive is that the tooling and assembly line is already amortized. As technology advances and the Z doesn't, it's sales will soon fall below the level where it pays to keep it in the lineup. I think 2018 model year is a good bet.
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The rear-wheel drive sports car like the Z is a niche vehicle, and a $30,000 niche that's shrinking as technology in that category advances. Not enough people are buying the low-tech (normally aspirated, for god's sake!!) sports cars....they're buying in the $60k-$90k range. The Corvette has consistently sold 30,000 units a year since 2014. The Z is currently at about 6000 (2016) and it's been declining. A lot. I suspect that the only reason the Z is still alive is that the tooling and assembly line is already amortized. As technology advances and the Z doesn't, it's sales will soon fall below the level where it pays to keep it in the lineup. I think 2018 model year is a good bet.
Internal combustion will be available as an exotic only.... it's your right to be accepting of the New World Order, a world of laws and modern slavery. Separation of the classes is what I see. And controlling the middle class in every aspect while not putting limits on the rich....

Tell me how is it... Subaru sells less cars annually on a car that IS NOT PARTS BIN except for the engine and stays committed?

Subaru BRZ US car sales figures

The FM platform is the whole infiniti lineup. The only thing our cars have not parts bin is the sheet metal, SRM program, and interior bits Even the brakes are infiniti parts bin.
There's no rocket science to our cars...

There's room to sell our type of sports car with an average of 6,000 sales a year as a parts bin car.

The corvette sells that much because the only thing parts bin is the engine. And even that, not really, because those engines start in the vette and trickle down.

REAL enthusiasts know when you buy a CORVETTE. You've bought the best in attainable from the ground up engineering out there. This is the first time in 40 years or so the camaro has had the privilege of being as close to it's own car as possible.

The Z33 and 34 are not the high cost ground up cars of the past. They built them that way on purpose. So they can produce the car with low sales numbers. The 350z was not expected to sell as well as it did those first few years. They thought that they could repeat that success in the Z34 and it didn't work that way and now they're Butthurt and wanna sell NWO cars and appease world leaders.

Chevy will continue to make rebellious cars because they understand why we fought a revolutionary war. They know what America stands for. Maybe my next car will be a corvette out of principle? But let me say this.... We have a car culture here, Puerto Rico and in Japan like nowhere else in the world. And Nissan sold out. Plain and simple.


Nissan has been selling between 5500 and 8,000 cars since 2011. It's not declining or rising. Which isn't bad considering it's so freaking dated. If they would've done right by the Z it would've been 10,000 units but they didn't make necessary changes like lazy stingy bytches
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