Kia Stinger.... Theyre passing Nissan.

Wonka2581 · 01-20-2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

I still strongly consider a mk4 supra till this day

Its just hard to find a good condition one and not over prices.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-22-2017, 05:27 PM

Kia is making drivers cars....

Toyota sports cars.... going hybrid.

2020 Toyota GT86 And Subaru BRZ Replacements Expected To Receive Hybrid Tech - autoevolution

Which equals MORE NUMB steering.

Muted engine sounds

Less inspiring ride. Woo-hoo!!

Hotrodz · 01-22-2017, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Kia is making drivers cars....

Toyota sports cars.... going hybrid.

2020 Toyota GT86 And Subaru BRZ Replacements Expected To Receive Hybrid Tech - autoevolution

Which equals MORE NUMB steering.

Muted engine sounds

Less inspiring ride. Woo-hoo!!

I saw that article and didn't even finish it...wtf who wants a video game car???

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NJZGuy · 01-31-2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Unless the Nismo gets over 500HP, I'm not sure we need more pistons. But they should improve on the current design to facilitate better cooling and function. Maybe a ceramic option would be nice but would you pay the extra $10,000 for a ceramic brake kit??? We don't have the Rouge brakes. The rouge had our brakes....

Yeah, but the Sport Package brakes are better. And since the Z isn't a 600+ HP supercar, then I don't see the point in ceramics

Hotrodz · 01-31-2017, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NJZGuy

Yeah, but the Sport Package brakes are better. And since the Z isn't a 600+ HP supercar, then I don't see the point in ceramics

You still don't need them! Ceramic brakes are over kill and not needed unless you are doing serious tracking...endurance racing!

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kenchan · 01-31-2017, 07:00 PM

rental car place gave me a newish corolla da other week. it was just as bad as a kia so i think deyre onto something here, dem kias.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-31-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NJZGuy

Yeah, but the Sport Package brakes are better. And since the Z isn't a 600+ HP supercar, then I don't see the point in ceramics

Our Z brakes are better than what? I'm lost. Than Rouge brakes? Or better than ceramic brakes?

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-31-2017, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NJZGuy

Yeah, but the Sport Package brakes are better. And since the Z isn't a 600+ HP supercar, then I don't see the point in ceramics

Our Z brakes are better than what? I'm lost. Than Rouge brakes? Or better than ceramic brakes?

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You still don't need them! Ceramic brakes are over kill and not needed unless you are doing serious tracking...endurance racing!

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Ceramics feel amazing but just not necessary on any application. Our brakes need to be re-engineered for weight reduction and improved cooling. Our brakes are very good. Especially at the price point. But we need aftermarket pads. I added the stop tech rotors, brake lines pads n motul rbf 600 to my sport brakes. It was a $700 MOD along with the GTR brake cooling upgrade. $220. I definitely improved brake performance significantly which means that there's a lot of room for improvement on very good Z brakes.

Hopefully next gen well see performance closer to my modded stock Z brakes

Firebase99 · 02-01-2017, 07:51 AM

So many of you guys have "Get of my lawn" mentality. Its funny. Id be happy if Macy's brought a sports car to the table. So few have the grapes to do it, the more options, the better.

Hotrodz · 02-01-2017, 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=UNKNOWN_370;3610172

Ceramics feel amazing but just not necessary on any application. Our brakes need to be re-engineered for weight reduction and improved cooling. Our brakes are very good. Especially at the price point. But we need aftermarket pads. I added the stop tech rotors, brake lines pads n motul rbf 600 to my sport brakes. It was a $700 MOD along with the GTR brake cooling upgrade. $220. I definitely improved brake performance significantly which means that there's a lot of room for improvement on very good Z brakes.

Hopefully next gen well see performance closer to my modded stock Z brakes[/QUOTE]

Agreed...I have done the same; SS brake lines, better brake pads, Castro brake fluid (the good stuff lol), APR brake ducts, Stillen brake cooling and Z1 master cylinder brace. So yes there is a lot of room for improvement and if they are wanting to keep up with the competition, they will upgrade the brakes as did Ford and GM have done.

MCLOVIN · 02-09-2017, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

A brand new car isn't an update. You should really try reading comprehension sometime. And no, it's not a Kia deer.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 02-21-2017, 10:01 AM

Kia Stinger GT (2017) prototype review by CAR Magazine

Nithmo · 02-21-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Agreed...I have done the same; SS brake lines, better brake pads, Castro brake fluid (the good stuff lol), APR brake ducts, Stillen brake cooling and Z1 master cylinder brace. So yes there is a lot of room for improvement and if they are wanting to keep up with the competition, they will upgrade the brakes as did Ford and GM have done.

I have a sneaking suspicion you might end up dissapointed. The best I figure we will see is Nissan returning to Brembos again. I hope they do, but I'm not holding my breath. Switching to Akebonos was a cost cutting measure, over the arguably more expensive and better Brembos from the Z33.

I dunno... Just look at the Z34 price point. We already know (or suspect) the 400hp TT setup is coming. Now add Brembos on top and whatever other improvements we want to see over the Z34, shiiiiiiet... We might be asking for a car that really does hit the 60k mark. Would you be willing to pay that price?

I'm secretly hoping Nissan pulls a magic card out of their *** and gives us the car [most] of us want, at a price [most] of us are willing to pay, but I guess time will tell if it actually hits the mark.

You're right in saying that GM and Ford added nice brakes, in addition to a ton of power and pretty nice handling suspensions (or at least way nicer than they did in the past), but one thing they didn't give a crap about was weight- the Z34 uses extensive amounts of aluminum and Nissan did their best to keep the weight down... That in itself isn't cheap. So which would you prefer? I doubt Nissan will give us everything.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-21-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

I have a sneaking suspicion you might end up dissapointed. The best I figure we will see is Nissan returning to Brembos again. I hope they do, but I'm not holding my breath. Switching to Akebonos was a cost cutting measure, over the arguably more expensive and better Brembos from the Z33.

I dunno... Just look at the Z34 price point. We already know (or suspect) the 400hp TT setup is coming. Now add Brembos on top and whatever other improvements we want to see over the Z34, shiiiiiiet... We might be asking for a car that really does hit the 60k mark. Would you be willing to pay that price?

I'm secretly hoping Nissan pulls a magic card out of their *** and gives us the car [most] of us want, at a price [most] of us are willing to pay, but I guess time will tell if it actually hits the mark.

You're right in saying that GM and Ford added nice brakes, in addition to a ton of power and pretty nice handling suspensions (or at least way nicer than they did in the past), but one thing they didn't give a crap about was weight- the Z34 uses extensive amounts of aluminum and Nissan did their best to keep the weight down... That in itself isn't cheap. So which would you prefer? I doubt Nissan will give us everything.

If the infiniti doesn't have Brembo? We won't have Brembo. Nissan decided to go parts bin instead of the original plan and giving the Z a proprietary platform. So expect a lot of carry over from the infiniti on the Z.

Nithmo · 02-21-2017, 11:07 AM

What does the current 400hp Infiniti use for brakes? I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the new Z gets.

01-22-2017, 05:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Kia is making drivers cars.... Toyota sports cars.... going hybrid. 2020 Toyota GT86 And Subaru BRZ Replacements Expected To Receive Hybrid Tech - autoevolution Which equals MORE NUMB steering. Muted engine sounds Less inspiring ride. Woo-hoo!! __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 01-22-2017 at 05:29 PM.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	rental car place gave me a newish corolla da other week. it was just as bad as a kia so i think deyre onto something here, dem kias. sunkist350z likes this.

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Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14033	So many of you guys have "Get of my lawn" mentality. Its funny. Id be happy if Macy's brought a sports car to the table. So few have the grapes to do it, the more options, the better. UNKNOWN_370 and BlackZeda like this. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

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Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	[QUOTE=UNKNOWN_370;3610172 Ceramics feel amazing but just not necessary on any application. Our brakes need to be re-engineered for weight reduction and improved cooling. Our brakes are very good. Especially at the price point. But we need aftermarket pads. I added the stop tech rotors, brake lines pads n motul rbf 600 to my sport brakes. It was a $700 MOD along with the GTR brake cooling upgrade. $220. I definitely improved brake performance significantly which means that there's a lot of room for improvement on very good Z brakes. Hopefully next gen well see performance closer to my modded stock Z brakes[/QUOTE] Agreed...I have done the same; SS brake lines, better brake pads, Castro brake fluid (the good stuff lol), APR brake ducts, Stillen brake cooling and Z1 master cylinder brace. So yes there is a lot of room for improvement and if they are wanting to keep up with the competition, they will upgrade the brakes as did Ford and GM have done. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Kia Stinger GT (2017) prototype review by CAR Magazine __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 127	What does the current 400hp Infiniti use for brakes? I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the new Z gets.

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